Reform of Saudi Arabia’s legal system has been underway for several years now. Everything from new training programs for judges, new standards for judges, attempts at codification of the laws, permitting female attorneys to argue cases in court have been happening, slowly but steadily.

Now, legal experts are calling for an expansion of specialized courts to deal with specific areas of the law, particularly those concerning business. Currently, judges, with few exceptions, take whatever case is before them. Applying the precepts of Shariah law, they work out for themselves how cases should be decided. They rely on what they know to make their decision and therein lies the problem.

As human knowledge expands, it’s become impossible for any individual to know all things, even within a wide band of certainty. Courts, legal experts say, must start to focus on particular types of law and employ judges who know that area of law well. Generalists are no longer sufficient for complicated legal issues that involve foreign law. And foreign law has become important because Saudi Arabia is smack in the middle of the global economy.

While the government is expanding the number of judges and general courts, the experts say they need more particularized courts to deal promptly with the issues that affect them. Businesses cannot wait for a judge to start reading up on an issue in order to reach a verdict. They need to know the material before the cases even hit their desks.

Judges and lawyers stress urgent need for specialized courts
Saudi Gazette report

JEDDAH — Judicial reforms project envisaged by Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah has yet to achieve the desired results, Al-Riyadh newspaper reported Monday quoting a number of judges and lawyers.

Judicial experts and specialists called for the establishment of specialized courts to consider the accumulated cases instead of leaving the task to the general courts. Specialized courts, they said, would create a judicial environment which would cope up with the economic boom, expedite the consideration of lawsuits and ensure fast issuance of suitable and fair rulings. The experts held ministries of justice and finance responsible for the delay in the establishment of such courts.

Abdullah Al-Ejairi, an appellant judge, specialized courts are necessary to deal with a large number of cases now being looked at by the general courts which usually take long years. “There should be a three-fold increase in the number of judges to dispose off the huge number of accumulated lawsuits,” he said.


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    Lola Said:
    July:03:2013 - 12:33 

    UPDATE ON PASSING STRANGE POST: comment section closed

    http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/22746261/mo-judge-to-rule-later-on-saudi-students-bond

    Posted: Jul 02, 2013 11:52 PM AST
    Updated: Jul 03, 2013 1:22 AM AST

    WARRENSBURG, Mo. (AP) – A Missouri judge said Tuesday he’s not convinced that a Saudi man charged with first-degree murder isn’t a flight risk, and he put off a decision about whether to release the man on $2 million bond.

    Despite assurances from Ziyad Abid’s attorneys that he couldn’t flee the country even if he wanted to, Circuit Judge Michael Wagner said he needed more time to decide whether to release him from jail on bond. Wagner asked attorneys to present him with evidence that the federal government wouldn’t try to deport Abid, despite the severity of the charges, and he promised to rule soon on the matter….

    Shawn Neudauer, a spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said Tuesday he couldn’t recall a case in which a foreign national was deported while awaiting trial on a first-degree murder charge, but that it’s unlikely the agency keeps statistics on such cases.

    Stoppy said Department of Homeland Security agents told her people unlawfully in the country are deported every day, and none could guarantee that Abid wouldn’t be deported if freed from jail. Still, she said she agreed that Missouri’s constitution requires him to be allowed to go free on bond.

    Abid’s trial is scheduled to begin Aug. 20.

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    John Burgess Said:
    July:03:2013 - 16:56 

    @Lola: Yeah, I can’t recall a case where someone on trial for first-degree murder was deported, either.

  3. 3
    Lola Said:
    July:03:2013 - 18:31 

    http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/12/world/us-deports-saudi-in-airmen-s-bombing-deaths.html?ref=haniabdelrahimalsayegh

    A Saudi who reneged on a deal to cooperate with American investigators was deported on Sunday to Saudi Arabia to face charges of helping in an attack that killed 19 American airmen, the United States and Saudi Governments announced today.

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/06/fbi-lied-to-congress-about-fla-saudi-familys-ties-to-911-hijackers/

    The FBI lied to Congress about the deep ties between a Florida Saudi family—that abruptly fled weeks before the 9/11 terrorist attacks—and the hijackers who carried out the plot, according to alarming new records uncovered by a journalism watchdog that’s led the effort to expose the government cover-up.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2351795/New-book-reveals-secret-relationship-FBI-mafia-capo-allowed-walk-away-26-murders.html

    A secret relationship between the FBI and a mafia capo that allowed him to walk away from at least 26 murders while under the Bureau’s protection has been exposed.

    ???

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    John Burgess Said:
    July:03:2013 - 22:42 

    @Lola: While the al-Sayegh case has some appearance of dodging prosecution, it’s not. As happens commonly, when a crime is committed on foreign soil, the US will release a prisoner to be tried in that country if it believes a fair trail will result. The US assumed that the Saudis — who were equally offended by the crime — would take care of it. Further, the US determined that it could not successfully prosecute al-Sayegh based on the information/evidence it had. The US dropped the case, so he did not escape trial due to deportation.

    The Judicial Watch piece is a joke, right? I live maybe three miles from the house in question and I’ve been following the story for years. Former US Sen. Graham has a bug up his butt about Saudi Arabia and sees dark hands plying the shadows everywhere he turns. Based on his deposition, he’s just pissed that he and his committee did not get every detail he thought important to investigating 9/11. He’s been tiresome and off the wall since he left the Senate. The FBI didn’t “lie to congress”. It reported what it found factual and linked to the actual crime.

    I’ve no idea why you’ve included a link to the FBI/Mafia story. If you’re suggesting that there are bad FBI agents, well that’s hardly a surprise. There are bad cops, bad priests, bad mothers and fathers. A case that goes back 40-50 years is hardly relevant.

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    Lola Said:
    July:05:2013 - 18:01 

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    Lola Said:
    July:05:2013 – 13:03

    @John:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bombing#Indictment

    Ahmed Ibrahim Al-Mughassil: AT LARGE
    Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser: AT LARGE
    Ali Saed Bin Ali El-Hoorie: AT LARGE
    Ibrahim Salih Mohammed Al-Yacoub: AT LARGE
    Nine other SAUDIS
    One Lebanese man listed as “John Doe.”

    The remaining five were Sa’ed Al-Bahar,Saleh Ramadan, Ali Al-Marhoun, Mustafa Al-Mu’alem and Fadel Al-Alawe.

    http://original.antiwar.com/porter/2009/06/24/us-officials-leaked-false-story-blaming-iran-for-khobar-attack/

    US Officials Leaked False Story Blaming Iran for Khobar Attack

    by Gareth Porter, June 25, 2009

    In March 1997, FBI Director Louis Freeh got what he calls in his memoirs “the first truly big break in the case”: the arrest in Canada of one of the Saudi Hezbollah members the Saudis accused of being the driver of the getaway car at Khobar Towers.

    RE: Florida Saudis–you might consider this source more reputable

    http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/14/10672374-new-questions-about-fbi-probe-of-saudis-post-911-exodus#comments

    By Robbyn Swan
    Special to msnbc.com

    The FBI mishandled its investigation of the travel of a Saudi prince and his companions out of Florida within days of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, new interviews, 9/11 Commission documents and FBI files reveal. And its detailed report on the matter, drawn up for members of Congress and President George W. Bush, was inaccurate.

    RE: story of FBI protecting a guy while he murders 26 people– yeah to demonstrate the incompetence of government employees– like the couple examples above.

    And the latest government scandals:

    BENGHAZI
    NSA
    STATE DEPARTMENT (cover-ups of employees crimes, paying for facebook likes besides letting Americans die, rot in prison, etc.)
    DOJ and Holder’s lies
    IRS
    AP
    and more to come…

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/june_2013/24_trust_federal_government_to_do_right_thing_most_or_all_the_time

    Thursday, June 13, 2013

    Talk about a trust deficit.Just one-in-four Likely U.S. Voters (24%) now has confidence that when the federal government acts it’s doing the right thing most or nearly all the time, but that includes just four percent (4%) who say it almost always does the right thing.

    http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=3872

    State Department’s War on Americans

    By Joel Mowbray – Townhall

    Just when one thinks high level federal employees paid by our tax dollars can’t possibly get more despicable, a tale like this one, of American citizens being blatantly betrayed by their own government in favor of the duplicitous Saudis, proves one wrong. As an American citizen who lived overseas for many years, and who had friends whose parents worked for the State Department, I am utterly ashamed of these sordid actions by members of our State Department, whose pandering to the corrupt Saudi government is beyond contempt.

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