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		<title>By: Chiara</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/30/fading-obama-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-25682</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Obama has a particularly distinguished personality. I think he is a slick product of his upbringing, ambition, and his campaign manager, who was an ad executive, and still heavily involved in branding his client. 

There are huge levels of disingenuousness about how much the Obamas benefitted from affirmative action, and about the fact that given his looks he had no choice but to forge an identity as an &quot;African American&quot;. I do agree with African American scholars that he is not an up from slavery African American, and not &quot;black&quot; in that sense. Also I&#039;ve spent more time and been more engaged in life in Morocco than he has in Kenya; and I know of no African who would brag about his granny living in poverty or his half-brother living in a slum when he was as successful as Obama--so I don&#039;t find him particularly African in that sense either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Obama has a particularly distinguished personality. I think he is a slick product of his upbringing, ambition, and his campaign manager, who was an ad executive, and still heavily involved in branding his client. </p>
<p>There are huge levels of disingenuousness about how much the Obamas benefitted from affirmative action, and about the fact that given his looks he had no choice but to forge an identity as an &#8220;African American&#8221;. I do agree with African American scholars that he is not an up from slavery African American, and not &#8220;black&#8221; in that sense. Also I&#8217;ve spent more time and been more engaged in life in Morocco than he has in Kenya; and I know of no African who would brag about his granny living in poverty or his half-brother living in a slum when he was as successful as Obama&#8211;so I don&#8217;t find him particularly African in that sense either.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/30/fading-obama-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-25681</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your biography Maha and I hope that writing your book is a healing experience for you. People need to look at each other as people. However, that is so much easier said than done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your biography Maha and I hope that writing your book is a healing experience for you. People need to look at each other as people. However, that is so much easier said than done.</p>
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		<title>By: Maha Noor Elahi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maha Noor Elahi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sparky
I don&#039;t take it seriously, but it&#039;s funny coming from an illieterate man. Yet he represents a big cateogry in the Arab world. Tehy&#039;re all drugged with songs and entertainment.
The song is not considered a first class (not even) a third class song as far as singing is concerned.

And I don&#039;t consider America a scary place as I have lived and studied there for a few years ..se (The Biography of a Saudi Fraud)
http://saudirevelations.wordpress.com/the-biography-of-a-saudi-fraud/
It&#039;s not as scary as the media makes it sound, but no one can say that it is as safe as Jeddah or Makkah for instance.
 I lived in Denver where it was relatively safe, but we used to get warnings from time to time about rapists or murderers breaking loose from prision.
However, when we took a tour to different American states, we felt it was much less safer than Denver.

&quot;Unfortunately, I have learned no one is really gonna do anything for you unless you do something for yourself.&quot;

I sincerely believe in this.
thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sparky<br />
I don&#8217;t take it seriously, but it&#8217;s funny coming from an illieterate man. Yet he represents a big cateogry in the Arab world. Tehy&#8217;re all drugged with songs and entertainment.<br />
The song is not considered a first class (not even) a third class song as far as singing is concerned.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t consider America a scary place as I have lived and studied there for a few years ..se (The Biography of a Saudi Fraud)<br />
<a href="http://saudirevelations.wordpress.com/the-biography-of-a-saudi-fraud/" rel="nofollow">http://saudirevelations.wordpress.com/the-biography-of-a-saudi-fraud/</a><br />
It&#8217;s not as scary as the media makes it sound, but no one can say that it is as safe as Jeddah or Makkah for instance.<br />
 I lived in Denver where it was relatively safe, but we used to get warnings from time to time about rapists or murderers breaking loose from prision.<br />
However, when we took a tour to different American states, we felt it was much less safer than Denver.</p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately, I have learned no one is really gonna do anything for you unless you do something for yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>I sincerely believe in this.<br />
thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maha, that song is nonsensical propaganda. Apart from a nice beat, it&#039;s pretty weak. If the song wanted to make use of the comparison of George Bush to Obama it could do so without throwing in very off key information like Mosad getting Hariri?

Also, I sense and correct me if I am wrong that you have been induced with fears about what a dangerous place America is so as in your example that you can safely go out to Danube Supermarket to get ice-cream. I need to check out that store. K that aside, I think watching certain T.V. shows (wallahi I wrote &#039;T.V. shoes&#039; and self corrected) even reality ones like “Snapped” etc., can be very damn scary. Even watching the American news, can fill one with irrational fears. However, I can assure you that America is a relatively safe place. I have done things in which some of my friends and family were sure I would get chopped into pieces and served for lunch but I came out in one piece Thank God. 

Unfortunately, I have learned no one is really gonna do anything for you unless you do something for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maha, that song is nonsensical propaganda. Apart from a nice beat, it&#8217;s pretty weak. If the song wanted to make use of the comparison of George Bush to Obama it could do so without throwing in very off key information like Mosad getting Hariri?</p>
<p>Also, I sense and correct me if I am wrong that you have been induced with fears about what a dangerous place America is so as in your example that you can safely go out to Danube Supermarket to get ice-cream. I need to check out that store. K that aside, I think watching certain T.V. shows (wallahi I wrote &#8216;T.V. shoes&#8217; and self corrected) even reality ones like “Snapped” etc., can be very damn scary. Even watching the American news, can fill one with irrational fears. However, I can assure you that America is a relatively safe place. I have done things in which some of my friends and family were sure I would get chopped into pieces and served for lunch but I came out in one piece Thank God. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I have learned no one is really gonna do anything for you unless you do something for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michel, we can always dream! That would be a wonderful dream :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michel, we can always dream! That would be a wonderful dream <img src='http://xrdarabia.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maha Noor Elahi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maha Noor Elahi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops..the first line wasn&#039;t pasted ..

&quot;I see a smile and happiness on faces&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops..the first line wasn&#8217;t pasted ..</p>
<p>&#8220;I see a smile and happiness on faces&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Maha Noor Elahi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maha Noor Elahi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admire and respect Obama a great deal, which is something I have never felt towards any American president, and this is not because _like many Arabs_ i beleive he will solve the ME issue, but because he has a distinguished personality, which is not necessary to make a great politician or president at all :) 
I don&#039;t beleive that he has a magic wand to solve the all problems, not even half the problems in the world, but if he&#039;s really honest and wants genuine reform, he won&#039;t survive in the White House. 

I invite everyone here to listen to this view on Obama from a very simple man...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT5-D1OPAB0&amp;feature=related

Here is my translation of it...I tried to avoid literal translation as possible, but of course, as I always beleive, translation kills the soul of the word, especially with very local and non-classic Arabic lyrics.
Enjoy ;)


But I hope that Obama is better than Bush
Bush _ may he lives in misery
Has destroyed us for days and years
And people think that Obama
Is going to be Salahudeen
And what will Obama do 
After the destruction made by Bush and his father?
They didn&#039;t leave a place on Earth without wiping it out :
Famines, financial crisis, and wars
The son of the **** is gone now
But has left us with bricks of destruction
Obama seems to know what we dream of..how we feel
But let us not dream and have high hopes, for the dream might turn into a nightmare 
Let us remain as we are, for we got used to agony
So Bush has left and Obama has come..so what he&#039;ll be able to do? What will happen?
Palestine is still occupied  and war still prevails in Iraq
People are living in humiliation and hostility generates only more hostility
No matter what Obama does,
AlHariri won&#039;t come back , nor will Sheikh Yaseen 
Arafat will never come back ..he lived a sorrowful life
And when he died, everybody knew it was caused by Mossad.
Poor Arabs…peace on you…waiting for Obama to help you and have mercy on you
But no Bush or Obama is thinking of you…
There&#039;s nothing that will help you except taking your rights in your own hands
Only &quot;you&quot; can protect yourselves.
We&#039;ll see!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire and respect Obama a great deal, which is something I have never felt towards any American president, and this is not because _like many Arabs_ i beleive he will solve the ME issue, but because he has a distinguished personality, which is not necessary to make a great politician or president at all <img src='http://xrdarabia.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I don&#8217;t beleive that he has a magic wand to solve the all problems, not even half the problems in the world, but if he&#8217;s really honest and wants genuine reform, he won&#8217;t survive in the White House. </p>
<p>I invite everyone here to listen to this view on Obama from a very simple man&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT5-D1OPAB0&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT5-D1OPAB0&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Here is my translation of it&#8230;I tried to avoid literal translation as possible, but of course, as I always beleive, translation kills the soul of the word, especially with very local and non-classic Arabic lyrics.<br />
Enjoy <img src='http://xrdarabia.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I hope that Obama is better than Bush<br />
Bush _ may he lives in misery<br />
Has destroyed us for days and years<br />
And people think that Obama<br />
Is going to be Salahudeen<br />
And what will Obama do<br />
After the destruction made by Bush and his father?<br />
They didn&#8217;t leave a place on Earth without wiping it out :<br />
Famines, financial crisis, and wars<br />
The son of the **** is gone now<br />
But has left us with bricks of destruction<br />
Obama seems to know what we dream of..how we feel<br />
But let us not dream and have high hopes, for the dream might turn into a nightmare<br />
Let us remain as we are, for we got used to agony<br />
So Bush has left and Obama has come..so what he&#8217;ll be able to do? What will happen?<br />
Palestine is still occupied  and war still prevails in Iraq<br />
People are living in humiliation and hostility generates only more hostility<br />
No matter what Obama does,<br />
AlHariri won&#8217;t come back , nor will Sheikh Yaseen<br />
Arafat will never come back ..he lived a sorrowful life<br />
And when he died, everybody knew it was caused by Mossad.<br />
Poor Arabs…peace on you…waiting for Obama to help you and have mercy on you<br />
But no Bush or Obama is thinking of you…<br />
There&#8217;s nothing that will help you except taking your rights in your own hands<br />
Only &#8220;you&#8221; can protect yourselves.<br />
We&#8217;ll see!</p>
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		<title>By: Chiara</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/30/fading-obama-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-25662</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, late edit: ...if it weren&#039;t sitting...; and ...The Taliban...without the Soviet invasion...

Need I add I was talking to him in the ophthalmologist&#039;s office? :( 
LOL :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, late edit: &#8230;if it weren&#8217;t sitting&#8230;; and &#8230;The Taliban&#8230;without the Soviet invasion&#8230;</p>
<p>Need I add I was talking to him in the ophthalmologist&#8217;s office? <img src='http://xrdarabia.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
LOL <img src='http://xrdarabia.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chiara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chiara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I talked with an Afghani man this morning who was raised in Tehran, because of the problems in Afghanistan 20 years ago. He wanted the troops in to get the Taliban out, but we agreed that war devastates and long periods of war undermine a country for generations, Hard to know what Afghanistan would be like today if it were sitting on everyone&#039;s oil pipeline path. Taliban would be dreadful, but maybe they wouldn&#039;t have had any sway without Soviet invasion in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talked with an Afghani man this morning who was raised in Tehran, because of the problems in Afghanistan 20 years ago. He wanted the troops in to get the Taliban out, but we agreed that war devastates and long periods of war undermine a country for generations, Hard to know what Afghanistan would be like today if it were sitting on everyone&#8217;s oil pipeline path. Taliban would be dreadful, but maybe they wouldn&#8217;t have had any sway without Soviet invasion in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that link, Sparky; what if the US sent 30,000 persons of that caliber to Afghanistan rather than soldiers ? Would it work ? Would it improve people&#039;s lives ? Then other countries would follow, wouldn&#039;t they ?
Sorry it&#039;s just a dream :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that link, Sparky; what if the US sent 30,000 persons of that caliber to Afghanistan rather than soldiers ? Would it work ? Would it improve people&#8217;s lives ? Then other countries would follow, wouldn&#8217;t they ?<br />
Sorry it&#8217;s just a dream <img src='http://xrdarabia.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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