Comments on: On-Line Jihadists Switching Languages http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/20/on-line-jihadists-switching-languages/ Informed comment and commentary about Saudi Arabia, reform, and its relations with the US Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:12:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sparky http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/20/on-line-jihadists-switching-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-25346 Sparky Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:01:38 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=9296#comment-25346 I needed to add this part too. About the switching language bit...quite interesting: 1. I don't believe they will be successful and if it is they will only attract the derelicts of society which will certainly do the "cause" good. 2. Sounds like desperation if you ask me! Bowing down to the English language hahahah. So much better it would be if these people instead learned skills to take control of their lives and find true contentment through peace and understanding. Not what everyone is looking for obviously. I needed to add this part too.

About the switching language bit…quite interesting:

1. I don’t believe they will be successful and if it is they will only attract the derelicts of society which will certainly do the “cause” good.

2. Sounds like desperation if you ask me! Bowing down to the English language hahahah.

So much better it would be if these people instead learned skills to take control of their lives and find true contentment through peace and understanding. Not what everyone is looking for obviously.

]]> By: Sparky http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/20/on-line-jihadists-switching-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-25345 Sparky Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:29:38 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=9296#comment-25345 Solomon2 ditto on where do I sign up! Further, I would like to say to someone who may be seduced by such that, "There are many channels in which to wave your righteous wand but not through destruction. These MAD people are pissed off. Don't join the pissed off group. Join the happy group" Mostly About Destruction Solomon2 ditto on where do I sign up!

Further, I would like to say to someone who may be seduced by such that, “There are many channels in which to wave your righteous wand but not through destruction. These MAD people are pissed off. Don’t join the pissed off group. Join the happy group”

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]]> By: Chiara http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/20/on-line-jihadists-switching-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-25338 Chiara Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:00:03 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=9296#comment-25338 Solomon2--good question! Not from what I've read, but if they had I assume the RCMP would have led them astray since they were really trying to get a solid case this time. The first "Toronto 18" (give or take) were a group of Pakstani youth all arrested with great fanfare in the post-9/11 hysteria of winter 2001/2. They were all quietly released with no charges, but their reputations wrecked. So this lot they wanted concrete actions and evidence for; and then arrested them with SWAT teams and photo ops. Unfortunately they weren't much into terrorism, the plans were vague and promoted by the plant, they had to be coaxed, and they wanted to spend their "training camp" time in the local Tim Hortons eating doughnuts and drinking coffee. In short a rather unenthusiastic lot. Even the plant testified on their behalf. Only 5 were charged, and about the same were found guilty of planning a fertilizing bomb for the Canadian Parliament buildings in Ottawa. Solomon2–good question! Not from what I’ve read, but if they had I assume the RCMP would have led them astray since they were really trying to get a solid case this time. The first “Toronto 18″ (give or take) were a group of Pakstani youth all arrested with great fanfare in the post-9/11 hysteria of winter 2001/2. They were all quietly released with no charges, but their reputations wrecked. So this lot they wanted concrete actions and evidence for; and then arrested them with SWAT teams and photo ops. Unfortunately they weren’t much into terrorism, the plans were vague and promoted by the plant, they had to be coaxed, and they wanted to spend their “training camp” time in the local Tim Hortons eating doughnuts and drinking coffee. In short a rather unenthusiastic lot. Even the plant testified on their behalf. Only 5 were charged, and about the same were found guilty of planning a fertilizing bomb for the Canadian Parliament buildings in Ottawa.

]]> By: Solomon2 http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/20/on-line-jihadists-switching-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-25335 Solomon2 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:17:33 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=9296#comment-25335 <i>They were (mis)lead by 2 RCMP Muslim Canadian plants (one paid $2m) who tried to train them into an active terrorist group -</i> Not even one of the kids called the authorities to report that they knew a terrorist group was being formed? They were (mis)lead by 2 RCMP Muslim Canadian plants (one paid $2m) who tried to train them into an active terrorist group -

Not even one of the kids called the authorities to report that they knew a terrorist group was being formed?

]]> By: Chiara http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/20/on-line-jihadists-switching-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-25333 Chiara Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:38:46 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=9296#comment-25333 John--good point. Of the Toronto 18 arrested in 2006, and mentioned in the article, most have been released without charges or had the charges tossed. They were (mis)lead by 2 RCMP Muslim Canadian plants (one paid $2m) who tried to train them into an active terrorist group(one of the plants had Canadian Forces training) with little success--too cold "up north" ie about 100km north of Toronto ie still Southern Ontario. Most if not all were South Asian as was at least one of the plants. Most of the arrested were middle class, good students, and no previous problems,ie naive, young, impressionable, and full of testosterone (most were age 17-19). John–good point. Of the Toronto 18 arrested in 2006, and mentioned in the article, most have been released without charges or had the charges tossed. They were (mis)lead by 2 RCMP Muslim Canadian plants (one paid $2m) who tried to train them into an active terrorist group(one of the plants had Canadian Forces training) with little success–too cold “up north” ie about 100km north of Toronto ie still Southern Ontario. Most if not all were South Asian as was at least one of the plants. Most of the arrested were middle class, good students, and no previous problems,ie naive, young, impressionable, and full of testosterone (most were age 17-19).

]]> By: John Burgess http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/20/on-line-jihadists-switching-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-25331 John Burgess Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:48:00 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=9296#comment-25331 There's no shortage of disaffected young men anywhere in the world. Some can always be tempted into 'doing something' rather than just talking about it. There’s no shortage of disaffected young men anywhere in the world. Some can always be tempted into ‘doing something’ rather than just talking about it.

]]> By: Jerry M http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/20/on-line-jihadists-switching-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-25326 Jerry M Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:46:09 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=9296#comment-25326 This is to be expected. The global jihad movement has probably maxed out on the kind of people it can attract within the Arab world. Of course you still get local actors in Yemen, but the attraction for international mayhem seems a little less and I am sure the neighboring Arab states are tightening their own borders. I doubt that either the UK bombers or the ones in Mumbai, were fluent in Arabic. Even the recent murderer at Ft. Hood was barely literate in Arabic (and I am assuming the news reports are accurate). This is to be expected. The global jihad movement has probably maxed out on the kind of people it can attract within the Arab world. Of course you still get local actors in Yemen, but the attraction for international mayhem seems a little less and I am sure the neighboring Arab states are tightening their own borders.

I doubt that either the UK bombers or the ones in Mumbai, were fluent in Arabic. Even the recent murderer at Ft. Hood was barely literate in Arabic (and I am assuming the news reports are accurate).

]]> By: Solomon2 http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/20/on-line-jihadists-switching-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-25323 Solomon2 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:11:18 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=9296#comment-25323 <i>Saudi Arabia set up its Assakeena program after authorities found that 70 percent of al-Qaida sympathizers were drawn to the group through the Internet. In the campaign, government-backed preachers monitor 400 radical Islamic web sites and inject a more moderate message on the sites. The campaigners also directly contact and dialogue with militants they encounter on the Web, conversations that can take weeks or months. Of 2,631 militants contacted by the group, 1,170 withdrew their support for radicals -</i> They get paid! Where do I sign up? :) Saudi Arabia set up its Assakeena program after authorities found that 70 percent of al-Qaida sympathizers were drawn to the group through the Internet. In the campaign, government-backed preachers monitor 400 radical Islamic web sites and inject a more moderate message on the sites. The campaigners also directly contact and dialogue with militants they encounter on the Web, conversations that can take weeks or months. Of 2,631 militants contacted by the group, 1,170 withdrew their support for radicals -

They get paid! Where do I sign up? :)

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