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	<title>Comments on: Saudis Who Stare at Goats</title>
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		<title>By: Chiara</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/17/saudis-who-stare-at-goats/comment-page-1/#comment-25301</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solomon2--no kosher goat products in DC? I am amazed! Not enough Sephardic Jews from goat eating countries? Not enough Frenchified Askenazis? Maybe opening you own specialty import store would be easier that starting a kosher butchery for caprids--unless you hired a kosher butcher. Hmmm not bad ideas all round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solomon2&#8211;no kosher goat products in DC? I am amazed! Not enough Sephardic Jews from goat eating countries? Not enough Frenchified Askenazis? Maybe opening you own specialty import store would be easier that starting a kosher butchery for caprids&#8211;unless you hired a kosher butcher. Hmmm not bad ideas all round.</p>
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		<title>By: Aafke</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/17/saudis-who-stare-at-goats/comment-page-1/#comment-25298</link>
		<dc:creator>Aafke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they do use foundation and rouge on the udders. ;)

In America they overdo it with Arab horses, they always look &#039;&#039;Plastified&#039;&#039; on photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they do use foundation and rouge on the udders. <img src='http://xrdarabia.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In America they overdo it with Arab horses, they always look &#8221;Plastified&#8221; on photos.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that kind! Yes, I&#039;m aware of that. The same goes on--with varying regulations--in livestock, cat, and dog shows in the US. I was thinking, though, that you might have meant foundation, rouge, lipstick... THAT would have been beyond creepy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that kind! Yes, I&#8217;m aware of that. The same goes on&#8211;with varying regulations&#8211;in livestock, cat, and dog shows in the US. I was thinking, though, that you might have meant foundation, rouge, lipstick&#8230; THAT would have been beyond creepy.</p>
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		<title>By: Aafke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aafke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They get washed, and the white parts of the coat is brightened by brushing it with baby powder, the tails are shaven up a bit and the tuft is brightened with the kind of shampoo old ladies with white hair use, then they get cut neatly, and plaited so they are prettily curled, and then fluffed up. The hair on the spine is brushed up, and then very carefully cut in a straight line to show a beautiful straight back. The hairs on the legs are shaven short and the udders are made up pink and powdered and the blue of the veins is emphasised.
Takes hours.

Photo of a Dutch champion cow in full glory:
http://www.genesdiffusion.net/data/includes/thumb.asp?kenmerk=algemeeninfo&amp;map=upload&amp;visual=editor20-luckyjonkvrouw.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They get washed, and the white parts of the coat is brightened by brushing it with baby powder, the tails are shaven up a bit and the tuft is brightened with the kind of shampoo old ladies with white hair use, then they get cut neatly, and plaited so they are prettily curled, and then fluffed up. The hair on the spine is brushed up, and then very carefully cut in a straight line to show a beautiful straight back. The hairs on the legs are shaven short and the udders are made up pink and powdered and the blue of the veins is emphasised.<br />
Takes hours.</p>
<p>Photo of a Dutch champion cow in full glory:<br />
<a href="http://www.genesdiffusion.net/data/includes/thumb.asp?kenmerk=algemeeninfo&#038;map=upload&#038;visual=editor20-luckyjonkvrouw.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.genesdiffusion.net/data/includes/thumb.asp?kenmerk=algemeeninfo&#038;map=upload&#038;visual=editor20-luckyjonkvrouw.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/17/saudis-who-stare-at-goats/comment-page-1/#comment-25292</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Cow make-up&#039;? Now &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; sounds very creepy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Cow make-up&#8217;? Now <em>that</em> sounds very creepy!</p>
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		<title>By: Aafke</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/17/saudis-who-stare-at-goats/comment-page-1/#comment-25289</link>
		<dc:creator>Aafke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So are they really cool? Or really creepy? Could go both ways...

We&#039;ve got cow-beauty-pageants here, and special &#039;&#039;cow make-up artists&#039;&#039; You have no idea what they do to those cows!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So are they really cool? Or really creepy? Could go both ways&#8230;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got cow-beauty-pageants here, and special &#8221;cow make-up artists&#8221; You have no idea what they do to those cows!!!</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/17/saudis-who-stare-at-goats/comment-page-1/#comment-25288</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aafke: It&#039;s a social organization, largely rural, that tries to instill traditional values in young people. The name stands for &lt;a href=&quot;http://4-h.org/4hstory.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Head, Heart, Hands, and Health&lt;/a&gt;. It started out as a way to introduce contemporary agricultural practices to farmers and ranchers, but over the past 50 years has developed both an urban and international fellowship. Its mandates are Science, Engineering, and Technology; Healthy Living; and Citizenship. It started out a a cooperative effort of the US Dept. of Agriculture and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-grant_university&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Land Grant Universities&lt;/a&gt; across the US.

Among other things, they&#039;re noted for getting young people involved in farming and animal husbandry. You&#039;ll almost always find them exhibiting crops and livestock at the myriad county fairs across the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aafke: It&#8217;s a social organization, largely rural, that tries to instill traditional values in young people. The name stands for <a href="http://4-h.org/4hstory.html" rel="nofollow">Head, Heart, Hands, and Health</a>. It started out as a way to introduce contemporary agricultural practices to farmers and ranchers, but over the past 50 years has developed both an urban and international fellowship. Its mandates are Science, Engineering, and Technology; Healthy Living; and Citizenship. It started out a a cooperative effort of the US Dept. of Agriculture and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-grant_university" rel="nofollow">Land Grant Universities</a> across the US.</p>
<p>Among other things, they&#8217;re noted for getting young people involved in farming and animal husbandry. You&#8217;ll almost always find them exhibiting crops and livestock at the myriad county fairs across the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Aafke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aafke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sparky, of course women don&#039;t count. Or get counted. But that can go both ways.
I&#039;ve had a slight problem with my dreamrabbit who made the huge mistake of asking me what was more important, spending time with him or with my horse...
Hmmm who is more important... man, or horse...
Some questions should never be asked...
:twisted:

John, what&#039;s a 4H-er?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sparky, of course women don&#8217;t count. Or get counted. But that can go both ways.<br />
I&#8217;ve had a slight problem with my dreamrabbit who made the huge mistake of asking me what was more important, spending time with him or with my horse&#8230;<br />
Hmmm who is more important&#8230; man, or horse&#8230;<br />
Some questions should never be asked&#8230;<br />
 <img src='http://xrdarabia.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>John, what&#8217;s a 4H-er?</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I think it&#039;s just the oddity of it all for some of the writers/sub-editors.

There are a lot of 4H-ers who wouldn&#039;t be in the least fazed by a contest like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I think it&#8217;s just the oddity of it all for some of the writers/sub-editors.</p>
<p>There are a lot of 4H-ers who wouldn&#8217;t be in the least fazed by a contest like this.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2009/11/17/saudis-who-stare-at-goats/comment-page-1/#comment-25282</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes... I forgot about the Kosher detail!

The answer, clearly, is to set up your own Kosher slaughterhouse, focusing on caprids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes&#8230; I forgot about the Kosher detail!</p>
<p>The answer, clearly, is to set up your own Kosher slaughterhouse, focusing on caprids!</p>
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