Comments on: Saudi Media: “Islam ≠ Fundamentalism”

By: Chiara

Chiara — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:01:18 +0000

Thanks. I agree that both her comment and your recommendation are unlikely to happen! A relatively safe prediction! LOL

By: John Burgess

John Burgess — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:15:19 +0000

Yes, Sandy’s on hadith.

By: Chiara

Chiara — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:41:40 +0000

John–sorry, with which comment are you agreeing? I’m guessing Sandy’s but not sure.

By: John Burgess

John Burgess — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:46:56 +0000

I completely agree, but that’s not considered an even thinkable position to take in most of the Islamic world. In my opinion, the Hadith should be thrown out entirely as corrupt or highly suspect.

By: Solomon2

Solomon2 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:09:09 +0000

Thank you for the correction, Halimah.

By: Halimah bint David

Halimah bint David — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:02:51 +0000

Bismillaah

to them belongs priority in accepting Islam and in doing good deeds which qualify them for forgiveness of what they may have committed…

Is about and for the first three generations. You took it out of context and are incorrect about your assumption. That’s the very same mistake many Muslims make whom commit forbidden atrocities.

By: Halimah bint David

Halimah bint David — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:59:08 +0000

Bismillaah

You don’t even know that Halimah is a women’s name!

Say : O ye that reject Faith!

I worship not that which ye worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

To you be your Way, and to me mine.

By: Sandy

Sandy — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:56:00 +0000

I’m thinking both Halimah and J. take Hadith waaaayyy to seriously. Events took place in the 7h century. These sayings were not written down for 200 years. They can’t be taken at face value, out of historical/cultural context, or necessarily assumed true- even if they ARE Bukhari.

By: Solomon2

Solomon2 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:19:22 +0000

to them belongs priority in accepting Islam and in doing good deeds which qualify them for forgiveness of what they may have committed…
So for the fundamentalists it may be better to bomb Shia and infidels “for Islam” and be comforted by the assurance of divine forgiveness afterward than to refrain from violence. (As one archbishop said of a group of Christian heretics, “Kill them all, and G-d will know his own.”)

I am always checking myself and never completely comfortable lest I make or think some kind of error.
You, on the other hand, judge your deeds in advance. Do you think that’s because you aren’t an Islamic scholar?

By: Chiara

Chiara — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:09:34 +0000

Sparky–I can honestly say I never thought of that possibility. I was just impressed with how Jay’s self-stated persona/personality, and comments are “prickly”, and he chose “Kactuz” as a blogonym–cute!

That said, Jay, go easy–I have no doubt Halimah is well-intended, and maybe you could think “Christmas cactus” or “Cactus pear” or “Cactus flower” and not your most thorniest variety. According to my blog friend who knows her well, she is definitely a woman, and her husband seems to think so too.