Comments on: Puzzle http://xrdarabia.org/2009/09/10/puzzle/ Informed comment and commentary about Saudi Arabia, reform, and its relations with the US Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:53:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chiara http://xrdarabia.org/2009/09/10/puzzle/comment-page-1/#comment-23607 Chiara Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:56:52 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=8738#comment-23607 DW--alas the tragedy goes beyond Tiramisu, to Black Forest Cake (Kir), Rum cake (self evident), liqueur filled chocolates, mince meat pies/tarts, flambee'd crepes, or flambee'd anything (cherries jubilee, etc) orange cake with Cointreau... good thing my own alcohol policy allows for "burned off". I attended a family mixed wedding where the hosts in deference to their Muslim-inlaws, left the wines and champagne in "la cave", cooked veal not pork, but unfortunately could only find kosher not halal meat, so half the guests stuck to vegetables only, and then served a huge home made Black Forest Cake as dessert, refused again. Son-in-law should have been more culturally helpful! Somehow it strikes me that Vatican-regulated sex would be halal. I'm not sure why this comes to mind, nor how to get it out of my mind--quick! LOL :) DW–alas the tragedy goes beyond Tiramisu, to Black Forest Cake (Kir), Rum cake (self evident), liqueur filled chocolates, mince meat pies/tarts, flambee’d crepes, or flambee’d anything (cherries jubilee, etc) orange cake with Cointreau… good thing my own alcohol policy allows for “burned off”. I attended a family mixed wedding where the hosts in deference to their Muslim-inlaws, left the wines and champagne in “la cave”, cooked veal not pork, but unfortunately could only find kosher not halal meat, so half the guests stuck to vegetables only, and then served a huge home made Black Forest Cake as dessert, refused again. Son-in-law should have been more culturally helpful!

Somehow it strikes me that Vatican-regulated sex would be halal. I’m not sure why this comes to mind, nor how to get it out of my mind–quick! LOL :)

]]> By: DW http://xrdarabia.org/2009/09/10/puzzle/comment-page-1/#comment-23600 DW Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:10:45 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=8738#comment-23600 Damn it Chiara.. that means I will never get the taste of an actual Tiramisu cake like other people in the world enjoy it! I might as well use it with sobiuya! Also its sold in a lot of places around the kingdom.. you only have to find some "foal" (fava beans paste/nan bread place) and surely you will find a person selling sobiya next door. Damn it Chiara.. that means I will never get the taste of an actual Tiramisu cake like other people in the world enjoy it! I might as well use it with sobiuya! Also its sold in a lot of places around the kingdom.. you only have to find some “foal” (fava beans paste/nan bread place) and surely you will find a person selling sobiya next door.

]]> By: Chiara http://xrdarabia.org/2009/09/10/puzzle/comment-page-1/#comment-23557 Chiara Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:47:22 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=8738#comment-23557 Halal soubia- for medicinal purposes only! John-- are you suggesting that pre-marital sex for medicinal purposes only would be halal? :) I have learned the hard way that any alcohol in a food preparation, even though burned off in the cooking/baking remains haram. Halal soubia- for medicinal purposes only!
John– are you suggesting that pre-marital sex for medicinal purposes only would be halal? :)

I have learned the hard way that any alcohol in a food preparation, even though burned off in the cooking/baking remains haram.

]]> By: John Burgess http://xrdarabia.org/2009/09/10/puzzle/comment-page-1/#comment-23552 John Burgess Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:51:45 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=8738#comment-23552 By that line of reasoning, pre-marital sex would be winked at! ;) By that line of reasoning, pre-marital sex would be winked at! ;)

]]> By: M http://xrdarabia.org/2009/09/10/puzzle/comment-page-1/#comment-23551 M Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:42:08 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=8738#comment-23551 I think it's like smoking. Fatwas abound about how smoking is "haraam", yet they are sold everywhere because they're just too damn popular. I think it’s like smoking. Fatwas abound about how smoking is “haraam”, yet they are sold everywhere because they’re just too damn popular.

]]> By: John Burgess http://xrdarabia.org/2009/09/10/puzzle/comment-page-1/#comment-23550 John Burgess Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:33:02 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=8738#comment-23550 Given the way that things like food flavorings are regulated (i.e. banned) because they contain alcohol, I'm sort of surprised that even a minuscule amount in soubia would be permitted. By the time food flavorings get spread out in a recipe, the alcoholic content is closer to philosophical than measurable. Given the way that things like food flavorings are regulated (i.e. banned) because they contain alcohol, I’m sort of surprised that even a minuscule amount in soubia would be permitted. By the time food flavorings get spread out in a recipe, the alcoholic content is closer to philosophical than measurable.

]]> By: M http://xrdarabia.org/2009/09/10/puzzle/comment-page-1/#comment-23549 M Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:30:13 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=8738#comment-23549 Ah, Soubia! Every Ramadan we Hijazis get these strange looks when we tell them about our favorite Ramadan drink! To clear things up, off the shelf soubia is <i>not</i> alcoholic as it rarely gets fermented for more than a day. Just enough to give it its characteristic taste and fizz, but not enough to give it any real alcoholic content. That doesn't mean that <i>moonshine</i> soubia doesn't exist. I used to know a shop that sold what they termed <i>yesterday's soubia</i>, which I admit is a clever obfuscated name. I also confess to have drank a pot of home made soubia that was accidently brewed for longer that is usual. Me and the guys got tipsy and spent the whole night giggling at everything. The (non-Hijazi) religious elite are a bit wary of soubia. They know the process <i>can</i> lead to alcohol, but most of the times isn't, so they've never been able to actually ban it. Although I remember a fatwa once that if you ever drink soubia, drink it with its (supposed) health benefits in mind, just in case a tiny bit of alcohol slipped in somehow! Ah, Soubia!

Every Ramadan we Hijazis get these strange looks when we tell them about our favorite Ramadan drink! To clear things up, off the shelf soubia is not alcoholic as it rarely gets fermented for more than a day. Just enough to give it its characteristic taste and fizz, but not enough to give it any real alcoholic content.

That doesn’t mean that moonshine soubia doesn’t exist. I used to know a shop that sold what they termed yesterday’s soubia, which I admit is a clever obfuscated name. I also confess to have drank a pot of home made soubia that was accidently brewed for longer that is usual. Me and the guys got tipsy and spent the whole night giggling at everything.

The (non-Hijazi) religious elite are a bit wary of soubia. They know the process can lead to alcohol, but most of the times isn’t, so they’ve never been able to actually ban it. Although I remember a fatwa once that if you ever drink soubia, drink it with its (supposed) health benefits in mind, just in case a tiny bit of alcohol slipped in somehow!

]]> By: Sandy http://xrdarabia.org/2009/09/10/puzzle/comment-page-1/#comment-23540 Sandy Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:53:33 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=8738#comment-23540 They need to drink more. They need to drink more.

]]> By: Asmaa http://xrdarabia.org/2009/09/10/puzzle/comment-page-1/#comment-23539 Asmaa Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:13:53 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=8738#comment-23539 there is CPVPV outside riyadh, but the ones in jeddah are a tad softer. proly due to the soubya. there is CPVPV outside riyadh, but the ones in jeddah are a tad softer. proly due to the soubya.

]]> By: Sandy http://xrdarabia.org/2009/09/10/puzzle/comment-page-1/#comment-23537 Sandy Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:29:44 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=8738#comment-23537 The CPVPV are not outside Riyadh??? The CPVPV are not outside Riyadh???

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