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	<title>Comments on: Khulwa Sentence Disturbs Saudis</title>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Saudi Arabia: Forty Lashes for a 75-year-old Woman for &#8216;Mingling&#8217; with Men</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Saudi Arabia: Forty Lashes for a 75-year-old Woman for &#8216;Mingling&#8217; with Men</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Crossroads Arabia says this case drives home the need to codify the Saudi law, which are now based on Islamic Sharia (religious law) and the discretion and interpretation of individual judges. John Burgess adds:   The conviction stands as another example of why Saudi law must be codified. I do not insist that Saudi law be like American or any other nation’s laws. I do think, though, that it should be rational and clear enough that anyone has a clear idea if he or she is breaking a law. Leaving judgments to the independent wisdom of individual judges does not assure that and results in messes like this. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Crossroads Arabia says this case drives home the need to codify the Saudi law, which are now based on Islamic Sharia (religious law) and the discretion and interpretation of individual judges. John Burgess adds:   The conviction stands as another example of why Saudi law must be codified. I do not insist that Saudi law be like American or any other nation’s laws. I do think, though, that it should be rational and clear enough that anyone has a clear idea if he or she is breaking a law. Leaving judgments to the independent wisdom of individual judges does not assure that and results in messes like this. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aafke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aafke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think somebody wanted to get rid of her.
And the courst love to give out lashings anyway, so they would never pass up an opportunity to hand them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think somebody wanted to get rid of her.<br />
And the courst love to give out lashings anyway, so they would never pass up an opportunity to hand them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Islamic Justice,,,for a 75 year old Woman. - Page 12</title>
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		<dc:creator>Islamic Justice,,,for a 75 year old Woman. - Page 12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Originally Posted by Setanta   So you agree that women shouldn&#039;t have the freedom to ask for help? Isn&#039;t that very decent of them exempting women of a certain age? And you question the thought process of those who point the finger at islam in its treatment of its own people.     Of course she has the right to ask for help..  The Muttawa are self appointed and they are quite unschooled..  This is a miscarriage of justice by idiots who don&#039;t understand what Khulwa is about.. It will be over turned..    Khulwa Sentence Disturbs Saudis &#124; Crossroads Arabia [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Originally Posted by Setanta   So you agree that women shouldn&#8217;t have the freedom to ask for help? Isn&#8217;t that very decent of them exempting women of a certain age? And you question the thought process of those who point the finger at islam in its treatment of its own people.     Of course she has the right to ask for help..  The Muttawa are self appointed and they are quite unschooled..  This is a miscarriage of justice by idiots who don&#8217;t understand what Khulwa is about.. It will be over turned..    Khulwa Sentence Disturbs Saudis | Crossroads Arabia [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bet people here are disturbed.  Not only is this ridiculous, but it&#039;s a &quot;crime&quot; many of us- and I include myself here- are &quot;guilty&quot; of.

I&#039;d love to see an example from the time of the prophet or even the first 4 caliphs where it someone is &quot;convicted&quot; of &quot;khulwa&quot;.  Even if &quot;khula&quot; can be proven to have occured- it is not a &quot;crime&quot;.

The law does need codification- but we must be VERY careful about who gets to do the codifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bet people here are disturbed.  Not only is this ridiculous, but it&#8217;s a &#8220;crime&#8221; many of us- and I include myself here- are &#8220;guilty&#8221; of.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see an example from the time of the prophet or even the first 4 caliphs where it someone is &#8220;convicted&#8221; of &#8220;khulwa&#8221;.  Even if &#8220;khula&#8221; can be proven to have occured- it is not a &#8220;crime&#8221;.</p>
<p>The law does need codification- but we must be VERY careful about who gets to do the codifying.</p>
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