Family and friends condemn the two Saudis who have shown up in Al-Qaeda videos from Yemen. After being transferred from detention at Guantanamo to Saudi Arabia and processed through the rehabilitation program, the two had broken their oaths to avoid terrorism. Saudi Gazette/Okaz interviews the mothers of the two as well as others who all hope that the men see the light before it’s too late.
Al-Oufi, Al-Shihri betrayed our trust: Families, friends
Abdullah Al-Oraifij and Khaled Al-ShalahiRIYADH/MADINA – The family members and friends of ex-Gitmo detainees, Muhammad Al-Oufi and Sa’eed Al-Shihri, who resurfaced last week in Yemen as Al-Qaeda operatives despite having undergone a rehabilitation program in Saudi Arabia, have denounced them as “irreversible deviant members of society.”
Al-Oufi’s family has accused his “bad” compatriots of dragging him once again to the abyss of terrorism. After his return from Guantanamo where he spent seven years,
Al-Oufi swore that he would never return to the deviant thought, his family said.Al-Oufi’s mother squarely blames Sa’eed Al-Shihri for the mess her son is in now. The mother said her son was picked up from his house by Al-Shihri about three months ago.
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January:29:2009 - 23:29
“irreversible deviant members of society”
Well at least they got called a bad name. That will probably be the only punishment they’ll receive since Gitmo will be closed by the time they next get picked up in Iraq or Afghanistan. This situation makes a good case for not taking non-uniformed combatants as prisoners. The Geneva Convention allows them to be summarily executed in the field, ya know.
January:30:2009 - 08:58
That last point has been something I’ve considered for some time. Instead of taking prisoners, all the hassle can be avoided by summary executions. The military usually tries to find some intelligence value, though.
January:30:2009 - 12:32
The rule allowing execution of captured non-uniformed combatants is designed to protect civilians during war time. Enough civilians die due to lack of good intelligence or errant bombs/rounds already. If we could properly identify the enemy we would be able to further reduce those numbers.
But, the cowardly jihadis use the general population as cover because they’re too frightened to wear clothing that clearly identifies them as the enemy. They know they’d really get their collective tails kicked if they all wore the same colored scarf or keffiyeh or shmagh. So, their “asymmetrical warfare” ends up causing unnecessary civilian casualties. In contrast, the coalition forces show up fully uniformed and in easily identifiable vehicles. This sets them apart from civilians and reduces that type of collateral damage.
So, hold them for 72 hours to determine their “intelligence value” then line them up against the wall if they are low value captures. Honestly. We were not nearly brutal enough when we began in Afghanistan and it has led to today’s problems with detainees. Our military is head and shoulders above the rest of the world, but I think we could have done better in this area. These two, Muhammad Al-Oufi and Sa’eed Al-Shihri, have lived to kill again and that shouldn’t have happened.