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	<title>Comments on: Saudis Decline to Increase Oil Production</title>
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		<title>By: Aafke</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2008/05/16/saudis-decline-to-increase-oil-production/comment-page-1/#comment-13149</link>
		<dc:creator>Aafke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 13:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the interesting comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the interesting comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2008/05/16/saudis-decline-to-increase-oil-production/comment-page-1/#comment-13148</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 04:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see... thank you for both of your explanations...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see&#8230; thank you for both of your explanations&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Saudi in US</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2008/05/16/saudis-decline-to-increase-oil-production/comment-page-1/#comment-13147</link>
		<dc:creator>Saudi in US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 02:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry that was desalination plants not declination</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry that was desalination plants not declination</p>
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		<title>By: Saudi in US</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2008/05/16/saudis-decline-to-increase-oil-production/comment-page-1/#comment-13146</link>
		<dc:creator>Saudi in US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 00:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sparky,

#1) Oil is an issue, but it is a demand issue primarily. The US has not done enough to reduce their use. I think the current situation is healthy to make the right long term adjustments. You also cannot argue against a country like Saudi trying to make decisions for its own interest.
Here is an example that puts this into prospective:
A few weeks ago when the democrats were arguing about the Gas Tax Holiday issue, one of the most hypocritical videos I saw is of Mrs. Clinton riding with a blue collar worker to a gas station. The idea was that gas prices are impacting working class families. The problem is that worker was riding a large pickup truck that was wasting energy. That visual summarizes the problem for me. The consumers got used to wasting energy due to the low prices of the 90&#039;s and the politicians never paid attention to a long term responsible energy policy.

The US needs to adopt policies like Europe, by increasing taxes on gas (a little at a time) and invest in alternative energy. This will create higher prices for gas, which will reduce demand also. Some of the taxes can be used to provide relieve for low income families, but as direct income tax reduction not tied to gas taxes. People will learn, like Europeans did, that is better to own a small 4 cylinders car. 

Do not get me wrong, Saudi citizens also need to use gas more efficiently. This can be accomplished by increasing gas prices and may be offer more subsidies on other commodities. Also, Saudi uses too much oil for generating electricity for growing cities and operating declination plants. This brings us to my thought on #2 above

#2 The US by offering Nuclear help to Saudi will allow Saudi to offer more oil to the global markets by reducing domestic oil use. Strategically this also makes sense for the US as it insures control over the technology (i.e. making sure the use is peaceful) and wards off competition which giving American companies some sizable projects. Actually I was surprised that a president that has made a habit of making strategic blunders in the middle east actually made the seemingly right decision on this one. 
Regarding Iran&#039;s argument I think John summarizes it better. No one believes Iran does not have ambitions to develop a bomb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sparky,</p>
<p>#1) Oil is an issue, but it is a demand issue primarily. The US has not done enough to reduce their use. I think the current situation is healthy to make the right long term adjustments. You also cannot argue against a country like Saudi trying to make decisions for its own interest.<br />
Here is an example that puts this into prospective:<br />
A few weeks ago when the democrats were arguing about the Gas Tax Holiday issue, one of the most hypocritical videos I saw is of Mrs. Clinton riding with a blue collar worker to a gas station. The idea was that gas prices are impacting working class families. The problem is that worker was riding a large pickup truck that was wasting energy. That visual summarizes the problem for me. The consumers got used to wasting energy due to the low prices of the 90&#8217;s and the politicians never paid attention to a long term responsible energy policy.</p>
<p>The US needs to adopt policies like Europe, by increasing taxes on gas (a little at a time) and invest in alternative energy. This will create higher prices for gas, which will reduce demand also. Some of the taxes can be used to provide relieve for low income families, but as direct income tax reduction not tied to gas taxes. People will learn, like Europeans did, that is better to own a small 4 cylinders car. </p>
<p>Do not get me wrong, Saudi citizens also need to use gas more efficiently. This can be accomplished by increasing gas prices and may be offer more subsidies on other commodities. Also, Saudi uses too much oil for generating electricity for growing cities and operating declination plants. This brings us to my thought on #2 above</p>
<p>#2 The US by offering Nuclear help to Saudi will allow Saudi to offer more oil to the global markets by reducing domestic oil use. Strategically this also makes sense for the US as it insures control over the technology (i.e. making sure the use is peaceful) and wards off competition which giving American companies some sizable projects. Actually I was surprised that a president that has made a habit of making strategic blunders in the middle east actually made the seemingly right decision on this one.<br />
Regarding Iran&#8217;s argument I think John summarizes it better. No one believes Iran does not have ambitions to develop a bomb.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2008/05/16/saudis-decline-to-increase-oil-production/comment-page-1/#comment-13145</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oil &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; an issue, it&#039;s just not the only issue. And for the KSA, it&#039;s not much of an issue at all.

The difference is that the KSA has a long-standing policy of forswearing the development of nuclear arms. Iran, to the contrary, has made no such promises and keeps saying stuff about &#039;annihilating Israel&#039;.

Most of the world would be comfortable with Saudis generating electricity through nuclear reactors. They&#039;re less comfortable with Iran starting a nuclear war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oil <em>is</em> an issue, it&#8217;s just not the only issue. And for the KSA, it&#8217;s not much of an issue at all.</p>
<p>The difference is that the KSA has a long-standing policy of forswearing the development of nuclear arms. Iran, to the contrary, has made no such promises and keeps saying stuff about &#8216;annihilating Israel&#8217;.</p>
<p>Most of the world would be comfortable with Saudis generating electricity through nuclear reactors. They&#8217;re less comfortable with Iran starting a nuclear war.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2008/05/16/saudis-decline-to-increase-oil-production/comment-page-1/#comment-13143</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two questions:

1. How can one argue that oil is not an issue AND

2. Why should Saudi have nuclear aspirations but Iran should have none?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two questions:</p>
<p>1. How can one argue that oil is not an issue AND</p>
<p>2. Why should Saudi have nuclear aspirations but Iran should have none?</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2008/05/16/saudis-decline-to-increase-oil-production/comment-page-1/#comment-13142</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 15:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this was a matter of give and take or tit-for-tat. Aiding Saudi nuclear aspirations makes sense in its own right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this was a matter of give and take or tit-for-tat. Aiding Saudi nuclear aspirations makes sense in its own right.</p>
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		<title>By: ratherdashing</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2008/05/16/saudis-decline-to-increase-oil-production/comment-page-1/#comment-13141</link>
		<dc:creator>ratherdashing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 12:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what Bush gets for aiding Saudi &quot;peaceful&quot; nuclear efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what Bush gets for aiding Saudi &#8220;peaceful&#8221; nuclear efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Saudi in US</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2008/05/16/saudis-decline-to-increase-oil-production/comment-page-1/#comment-13140</link>
		<dc:creator>Saudi in US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 11:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure increasing production of a commodity that is on the decline and we will probably run out of in a few decades is a good idea. Yes there is a short term impact of the high prices, but I think in the long run we may just learn how to get a long with less energy.

5 years from now we may be able to see most people learn the lesson and replace their SUV&#039;s with more efficient vehicles. Replacement of HVAC&#039;s, appliances, and light bulbs with higher efficiency ones may also start occurring more rapidly. Nothing better than market dynamics to drive improvements. Trying to patch this artificially with a short term solution because we are election year is just going to make things worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure increasing production of a commodity that is on the decline and we will probably run out of in a few decades is a good idea. Yes there is a short term impact of the high prices, but I think in the long run we may just learn how to get a long with less energy.</p>
<p>5 years from now we may be able to see most people learn the lesson and replace their SUV&#8217;s with more efficient vehicles. Replacement of HVAC&#8217;s, appliances, and light bulbs with higher efficiency ones may also start occurring more rapidly. Nothing better than market dynamics to drive improvements. Trying to patch this artificially with a short term solution because we are election year is just going to make things worse.</p>
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