The Saudi Ministry of Justice has sought to clarify the reasoning behind the case of ‘Qatif Girl’. If what the statement reported in Arab News says is true, then there are indeed other important factors in the case.

The most important claim is that the girl confessed to adultery. Adultery can be a capital crime under Sharia law, but either of two conditions must be met. First, the adulterers must have been seen by four reliable, male witnesses, in the act. Or, the party must confess to having committed the crime. The latter seems to have been the case. If that is so, then the court, in increasing her punishment, still kept away from the maximum penalty it might have imposed: death.

[UPDATE: A helpful commenter says that I'm over-reading the press statement. It does not say she had confessed to adultery, only that she was not properly attired (in Arabic, المرأة في حالة غير محتشمة). Her 'illegal affair' does not necessarily imply adultery, only behavior with a man that does not fall within the concept of 'proper Islamic behavior' with an unrelated male. That covers a lot of ground.]

Islamic law is also very different from Western law in that it assesses responsibility not only to the actor, but to those who, through their own actions, established the circumstance under which the crime was committed. For example, if a car hits your legally parked car, you are nevertheless partially to blame. Had you parked elsewhere, your car would not have been hit. If you are involved in a head-on collision with a car on the wrong side of the road, you are partially responsible for being in that place at that time.

Using this reasoning, the court concluded that the gang rapes would not have happened had the couple not been where they were, when they were.

This may be sound reasoning, but it is still considered inhumane by most non-Saudis—and very many Saudis. Rape is not a little thing. Gang rape is even more horrendous. Most people think that this was more than adequate ‘punishment’ for whatever crime the girl and her companion may have committed. The new statement claims that the woman was in some sort of state of undress. Whether that means anything more than not having her head covered is not clear. Clearly, though, the court (and Ministry) do think the girl was advertising her availability.

The Ministry’s statement also discusses how the woman’s behavior represented a direct threat to the sanctity of marriage. It goes on to excoriate the media for running with incomplete facts and casting doubt on the legal system.

Whatever faults the legal system may have, they start with judges who do not consider gang rape a serious ‘punishment’.

New Ministry Statement on Qatif Case

Ebtihal Mubarak, Arab News

JEDDAH, 25 November 2007 — The Ministry of Justice issued a statement yesterday providing more details regarding the charges against a 19-year-old woman who was gang-raped by seven men in Qatif.

The statement, which the ministry says is a response to media scrutiny of the ruling, said that the rape victim confessed to having an illegal affair with the man who was caught with her.

“She went out with him without a mahram, a legal guardian, and exchanged forbidden affairs through the illegal khalwa,” the statement said. “They both confessed to doing what God forbids.”

The ministry said: “The first verdict of 90 lashes was made according to Shariah. The woman and her husband were convinced and agreed to it on 10/10/1427.”

… “They are the main cause of what happened, the woman and her companion, as they exposed themselves to this horrible crime and violated the rule of Shariah,” the statement said. “That’s why the sentences were increased for everyone due to the dangerous nature of the crime.”


November:24:2007 - 20:47 | Comments & Trackbacks (22) | Permalink
22 Responses to “Saudi Ministry Clarifies ‘Qatif Girl’ Judgment”
  1. 1
    Abu Sa'ud Said:
    November:24:2007 - 21:48 

    For example, if a car hits your legally parked car, you are nevertheless partially to blame. Had you parked elsewhere, your car would not have been hit. If you are involved in a head-on collision with a car on the wrong side of the road, you are partially responsible for being in that place at that time.

    While this once was the case in the Kingdom, it is no longer considered a valid ruling by most if not all judges. It certainly is a very far fetched example if you are trying to show how a person may be partially responsible even though they did not commit an offense directly.
    A better example would be that of someone acts as an accomplice to a crime, selling known lethal poison to a person, knowing that what he did was wrong but not knowing the person it would be used on.

    Whatever faults the legal system may have, they start with judges who do not consider gang rape a serious ‘punishment’.

    Should rape be considered a “punishment”? Punishments are things which people ultimately deserve for crimes committed. No one deserves to be raped, and to characterize rape as a ‘punishment’ is quite twisted.

    Lets characterize this situation in another way:
    If a man was shoplifting, hiding things on his person, but on his way out of the store was accosted by a random person who thought he was suspicious, upon impact making the stolen merchandise fall to the ground; would we then say that because of this assault he is exonerated of the crime of shoplifting?
    I think not. Both him and his assailant would be charged for their respective crimes. Whether they sentencing occurs in the same trial or in separate ones is a matter of procedure, something hardly unique to “islamic” courts.

  2. 2
    John Burgess Said:
    November:24:2007 - 23:04 

    I’m glad that that’s changed. When I was in the KSA in the early 80s, an acquaintance was driving his visiting parents in a car, down near Taif. Another car came around the corner on the wrong side of the road and hit them head-on. He was imprisoned, tried, and found partially guilty, exactly for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. His parents were killed in the accident; three others were killed in the colliding vehicle.

    If the law is now being interpreted along the lines of ‘felony murder,’ wherein one can be charged with murder if during the commission of a felony any person dies, then I don’t really have a problem. But simple bad luck should not weigh into decisions of guilt or innocence.

  3. 3
    Saudi in the US Said:
    November:25:2007 - 00:13 

    John, I do not see anything in the article that says she signed a confession of adultery. Here is the text about the confession

    “The woman mentioned in her signed confession that she called from her husband’s house using her cell phone asking for a forbidden ‘khalwa’ in front of a shopping center,”

    You may have interpreted this as the ministry saying she was an adulteress:

    “She went out with him without a mahram, a legal guardian, and exchanged forbidden affairs through the illegal khalwa,” the statement said. “They both confessed to doing what God forbids.”

    The word affair here could be anything forbidden by Islam a kiss or showing part of her body (even hair) could fit this definition. The statements made by the ministry are so vague that they do not change anything from what we already know. If she confessed to adultery they should use the word Zena to make it clear.

  4. 4
    John Burgess Said:
    November:25:2007 - 00:19 

    That could very well be. As you say, the Ministry was not a model of clarity. I was accepting that ‘affair’ meant ‘sexual affair’; it certainly could have been any number of things.

    Have you seen an Arabic language announcement from SPA on this? That might clarify things.

  5. 5
    Saudi in the US Said:
    November:25:2007 - 00:35 

    I have not seen anything in Arabic, but i am looking now. I will post back if I find it.

  6. 6
    Saudi in the US Said:
    November:25:2007 - 00:54 

    I found it in Asharg Alawsat. Here is the link:

    http://www.asharqalawsat.com/details.asp?section=43&issue=10589&article=447104

    The word I questioned earlier was based on the ministry saying إقامة علاقة غير شرعية

    Which translates literally to Illegal relation or illegal affair. The former would be the right way to interpret the statement as the word affair has a different meaning in English as it relates to sexual relations than in Arabic. Also, the Arabic text does not say any thing about adultery or a confession of one.

  7. 7
    Saudi in the US Said:
    November:25:2007 - 00:58 

    John, May I request that you post a clarification on your comments on the main article regarding the adultery topic. Some readers may not read the comments part and get the wrong info on this issue.

    Thanks

  8. 8
    zani Said:
    November:25:2007 - 01:29 

    so now we have a completely different story—she was caught naked on the beach with her lover despite being married—a saudi friend who has high contacts just got back 2 me and said that while a few things still had 2 be cleared, but the girl is thought 2 b of bad character, a “sharmootee” who seduced different men—well, the next few days r very critical 2 c what becums of this case.

  9. 9
    Saudi in the US Said:
    November:25:2007 - 01:39 

    Zaini,

    I read the entire press release in Arabic and there is no where in it where they say she was naked. All it said المرأة في حالة غير محتشمة
    Which could mean she was not in Islamic proper dress. I just do not want us to speculate, when we have a release that does not say these things.

    The fact still remains is that she was gang rapped and nothing can justify that.

  10. 10
    olivetheoil Said:
    November:25:2007 - 03:19 

    Wow! The Saudis are really upping the ante on this one. It’s gone from let’s blame the victim to let’s make up stuff as we go along.

    The case has been going on for so long and it is only now that all these accusations of illegal behavior come along?

    And if I read the press release correctly, she is to be blamed for the rape because she was inviting her availability? We have long accepted that the rape victim’s behavior is not at issue in a rape trial for very good reason.

    If the Saudis think this reasoning will be swallowed by anyone with a quarter of an ounce of sense, they are truly living with their heads in the sand.

    I would like to compare this to an equally ghastly report about the 15 year old being gang raped in prison in Brazil.

    The response there was rightly, it was a ghastly crime and the guilt lay on the perpetrators. If this were Saudi, would she be blamed for being in the prison and thereby inflaming the prisoners? It seems under the Saudi logic that would indeed be the case.

    I know the Saudis always say that their laws should be respected. I think this case shows why our answer should be hell no!

  11. 11
    M Said:
    November:25:2007 - 05:03 

    You’d think with all the noise surrounding this case that the ministry would be more clear in its announcements. As it stands, the announcement is still vague on details.

  12. 12
    John Burgess Said:
    November:25:2007 - 09:40 

    Saudi in the US: Thanks very much for the clarification of the actual text. I’ve updated the post.

  13. 13
    Rasheed Abou-Alsamh Said:
    November:25:2007 - 12:34 

    I don’t believe the rumors circulating in the Kingdom that Qatif girl is a loose woman. This is what was being said on conservative websites such as Al-Saha, but it is pure speculation, vicious and nasty.

    My colleague Ebtihal Mubarak has flown to Dammam today to try and meet Qatif girl. Let’s wait for her to come back and write about what she found out on the ground.

  14. 14
    John Burgess Said:
    November:25:2007 - 12:43 

    I’m impressed by Ms Mubarak’s reporting. I’ll be very interested in what she learns.

  15. 15
    buzz Said:
    November:25:2007 - 16:36 

    “This may be sound reasoning, but it is still considered inhumane by most non-Saudis—and very many Saudis.”

    Possibly due to this not even being in the same area code as sound reasoning.

  16. 16
    cassandara Said:
    November:25:2007 - 18:51 

    The husband, who asked to remain unnamed, spoke to CNN senior Arab affairs editor Octavia Nasr.

    “Her situation keeps changing from bad to worse,” he said. “You could say she’s a crushed human being.” “The court proceedings were like a spectacle at times,” he said. “The criminals were allowed in the same room as my wife. They were allowed to make all kinds of offensive gestures and give her dirty and threatening looks.” Of the three judges at the trial, one of them “was mean and from the beginning dealt with my wife as guilty person who had done something wrong,” he said. “Even when he pronounced the sentence, he said to her, ‘You were involved in a suspicious relationship, and you deserve 200 lashes for that,’ ” he said. The judge dismissed her lawyer, Abdulrahman al-Lahim, after the two clashed in court, he said. “The judge took things personally and was reacting to our lawyer, who’s a known human rights activist,” the husband said. “The judge undermined the lawyer, decreased his role and then dismissed him from the case altogether. The judge simply couldn’t work with our lawyer.”
    [CNN Nov. 21 '07]

    It’s remarkable testimony from her husband. It speaks volume that he is standing by his wife in the face of such pressure. Is it not his honor that is also at stake?

    They, the Saudi judicial system, can break Saudi men by breaking their wives.

  17. 17
    Valerie Said:
    November:25:2007 - 19:02 

    How did the men who raped her know that the man she was with was not her husband or legal guardian? Did they ask first?

  18. 18
    Peter Said:
    November:26:2007 - 05:01 

    Trials like this affect Saudi more than they realize. There continues to be tension between investors and China because of human rights issues, and for good reason.

    If Saudi wants their 10×10 program (one of the top ten countries for investment by 2010) then they need to get their human rights act together. To do that a societal transformation needs to take place. It’s not just about streamlining business law.

    It’s about letting foreign businessman not be ashamed to be making money in a country that treats so many of their people the way so badly. (Shia, women, expats, “lesser” tribes, etc.)

    If Saudi Arabia didn’t have oil they would be treated worse than South Africa was under PW Botha.

    From working in business and closely with youth, I can tell you that this kind of thing happens a whole lot more than is reported.

    I’m glad the Qatif girl has been able to remain anonymous and truly hope that she will receive justice. Hopefully this will give courage to all the other boys and girls who are raped. The vast majority never speak because they know that they will be blamed.

    When a girl walks alone on the street and she is dragged into a car and taken to the desert and raped, many would tell her that she shouldn’t have been alone.

    By the way, a girl of ill repute or one who is “loose”, can be one who takes a taxi by herself, walks in the street, or in some places doesn’t wear gloves.

    I see many people in Saudi who abhor the treatment that people like the Qatif girl are given and I hope they prevail.

    But it will take time and it won’t be easy, far longer than 2010.

    Turkey can’t join the EU and they aren’t near as bad as Saudi.

  19. 19
    Sparky Said:
    November:26:2007 - 17:25 

    I wonder if the judges pondered these sayings and teachings of the Prophet of Islam before handing out sentencing. And if it is true that both parties confessed to doing what God has forbidden, was this information voluntary given or was it excruciatingly, forcefully and humiliatingly pulled from them?

    Once a woman who had committed adultery and was with child came to the Prophet Mohammad and informed him of her crime. He said come back after you have delivered. Then after she delivered she came back to him. After that he said come back after you have suckled the infant. We Muslims know this story well. The Prophet was giving her a chance to ask forgiveness from her God each time and to basically to not come back again. However, with HER insistence she came back for the punishment which was carried out.

    “An adulteress passed by a dog at a well; and the dog was holding out his tongue from thirst, which was near killing him, and the woman drew off her boot, and tied it to the end of her garment, and drew water for the dog, and gave him to drink; and she was forgiven for that act.”

  20. 20
    Solomon2 Said:
    November:26:2007 - 18:58 

    MET has an exclusive:

    “He started to drive me home. &We were 15 minutes from my house. I told him that I was afraid and that he should speed up. We were about to turn the corner to my house when they [another car] stopped right in front of our car. Two people got out of their car and stood on either side of our car. They man on my side had a knife. They tried to open our door. I told the individual with me not to open the door, but he did. He let them come in. I screamed.

  21. 21
    kaz Said:
    December:27:2007 - 16:45 

    Anyone who is interested in listening to the other side of this story should read with attentiveness. A blatant ‘expose’ of the media who are constantly trying to misrepresent the Islamic shariah and Saudi Arabia in the eyes of the world.

    Why doesn’t this seem surprising as once again an oil rich country comes under attack for “barbarianism” and “Injustice”.

    The Hidden Truth About the Qatif Case: Response to “Rape
    Victim Gets Lashes”

    In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the
    Most Merciful.

    Recently, the fervently anti-Islamic and
    secularist newspaper, Arab News, published an article claiming that a rape
    victim was punished with lashes in Saudi Arabia. The news was immediately picked
    up by the Western media outlets, including BBC News, and soon the issue became
    an international affair. The international media used this news report as a means
    to disparage the Muslims by claiming that Islamic law was unjust and barbaric.
    The heretics (i.e. the Rawaafidh) used the incident as a means to fan the flames
    of sectarianism, lashing out at the Sunnis of Saudi Arabia, referring to them as
    “Wahabis”. And sadly, many Muslims themselves fell into the trap and believed
    the lies levied against the Saudi judges (who are Ulema).
    Allah Almighty warns the Muslims:
    “O you who believe, if a wicked evildoer comes to you with
    a news report, look carefully into it to verify the truth, lest you harm a
    people in ignorance and afterwards feel remorseful for what you have
    done.”

    (Quran, 49:6)
    In the time of the Messenger of Allah, the
    infidels used to spread lies and slander about the Messenger, and they would
    propagate false news reports in order to create dissension and discord amongst
    the ranks of the believers. Allah Almighty revealed the above verse so that the
    Muslims would be cautious of such reports and so that they would prevent the
    seeds of suspicion from entering into their hearts. Today, the enemies of Islam
    continue their crusade against Islam, with the Western media at the forefront of
    the ideological assault on Islam. The Western media has consistently proven
    itself to be deceitful, biased, and outright wicked; as such, whenever we
    Muslims hear anything from them, then we should take it with a grain of
    salt.

    The truth is that the media has slandered the
    good character of the Islamic judges in Saudi Arabia. The entire case has been
    hyped up and taken dramatically out of context by the media. In this article, we shall–with
    the Help of Allah Almighty–reveal the hidden facts about the case and thereby
    exonerate Islam from the charges levied against it.
    The Penalty for Rape in
    Islam

    No other religion besides Islam has ever
    placed such a large emphasis on the protection of women. It is known that the
    early Muslims even raised an army to bring to justice those who raped a woman;
    such was the attitude of the Muslims towards the heinous crime of rape. In one
    of the Prophetic traditions, we read:
    The Penalty for Rape in
    Islam

    No other religion besides Islam has ever
    placed such a large emphasis on the protection of women. It is known that the
    early Muslims even raised an army to bring to justice those who raped a woman;
    such was the attitude of the Muslims towards the heinous crime of rape. In one
    of the Prophetic traditions, we read:
    …A woman, in the life of the Messenger of Allah, [left her
    home] intending to go for Prayer [in the mosque] when a man seized her and had
    sexual intercourse with her, while she let out a scream [for help]. The man
    fled, and she told a man what had occurred. A group from amongst the
    Muhaajireen (i.e. the first group of Muslims) were told of this and they
    chased the man down eventually capturing who they thought it was, and took the
    man to her. She said that it was the man who did it to her. They took the man
    to the Messenger of Allah, and asked “who is the man who did this to her”? The
    man confessed saying, “I am the one who did this to her, O Messenger of
    Allah!” The Prophet Muhammad said to the woman, “You can leave, for Allah has
    forgiven you (i.e. absolved you of all sin)!” The Prophet said to the man,
    “Your words are sound.” So he said regarding the man who had raped her, “Stone
    him.”
    [Hadith reported by Abu Dawood in his Sunan and Imam
    at-Tirmidhi in his Sunan, in the chapter “What is said regarding the woman
    that has been coerced into committing fornication”]
    So the one who says that Islam lets rapists go
    free is a liar, because the Prophet himself sentenced the rapist to stoning.
    Likewise, the one who claims that rape victims get punished in Islam is also a
    liar, because the Prophet exonerated victims of all blame, and this 1,400 years
    ago when it used to be common to blame the woman for such things!
    In Islamic Law, the minimum punishment for
    rape is either stoning (if the perpetrator is married) or one hundred lashes and
    banishment for one year (if the perpetrator is not married). On top of this, the
    rapist is to pay a penalty fee in the form of the Mahr. And if the rape involved
    violence and the threat of weapons, then the rapists can be exiled from the
    land, have one hand along with one foot cut off, crucified, or killed.
    The Saudi based fatwa site, Islam-qa, explains
    the Islamic Law:

    Question:

    What is the ruling on the crime of rape in
    Islam?

    Answer:

    Praise be to Allaah.

    The Arabic word ightisaab refers to taking
    something wrongfully by force. It is now used exclusively to refer to
    transgression against the honour of women by force (rape).

    This is an abhorrent crime that is forbidden in all
    religions and in the minds of all wise people and those who are possessed of
    sound human nature. All earthly systems and laws regard this action as
    abhorrent and impose the strictest penalties on it, except a few states which
    waive the punishment if the rapist marries his victim! This is indicative of a
    distorted mind let alone a lack of religious commitment on the part of those
    who challenge Allaah in making laws. We do not know of any love or compassion
    that could exist between the aggressor and his victim, especially since the
    pain of rape cannot be erased with the passage of time – as it is said. Hence
    many victims of rape have attempted to commit suicide and many of them have
    succeeded. The failure of these marriages is proven and they are accompanied
    by nothing but humiliation and suffering for the woman.
    Islam has a clear stance which states that this repugnant
    action is haraam (forbidden) and imposes a deterrent punishment on the one who
    commits it…The punishment for rape in Islam is same as the punishment for
    zina, which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred
    lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.
    Some scholars also say that he is required to pay a
    mahr to the woman.

    …The rapist is subject to the hadd punishment
    (stoning or lashes) for zina, even if the rape was not carried out at
    knife-point or gun-point. If the use of a weapon was threatened, then he is a
    muhaarib, and is to be subjected to the hadd punishment
    described in the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “The recompense of those who wage war against Allaah and
    His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or
    crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be
    exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great
    torment is theirs in the Hereafter”
    al-Maaidah 5:33]

    So the judge has the choice of the four punishments
    mentioned in this verse, and may choose whichever he thinks is most suitable
    to attain the objective, which is to spread peace and security in society, and
    ward off evildoers and aggressors.
    And Allaah knows best.

    http://www.islamqa.com

    It should be noted that this website http://www.islamqa.com is
    maintained by the same group (i.e. the Saudi Ulema) who are judges in Saudi
    Arabia. This refutes those who claim that the Saudi judges let rapists go;
    rather, the penalties for rape in Saudi Arabia (and under the Islamic Law) are
    far stricter than what happens in the West. Whereas rapists are routinely
    executed under Islamic Law, we find that–according to the U.S. Department of
    Justice (Bureau of Justice Statistics)–convicted rapists in America serve only
    an average of about ten years behind bars. In England, the matter is even
    worse, with rapists serving an average sentence of less than four years.
    (ojp.usdoj.gov) Sandy Brindley, national
    coordinator of Rape Crisis Scotland, said: “People will be shocked to find out
    the average sentence for a rapist is five and a half years. They could be out
    after only three years–and that is concerning.” (news.scotsman.com/topics)

    As for the victim, then Islam says that she is
    not to be blamed in any way at all. Imam Malik, one of the four greatest jurists
    of Islam, said:

    “The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and
    there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the
    case.”

    (Al-Muwatta’, 2/734)

    Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr, one of the classical Islamic
    scholars, said:

    “There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that
    he forced her and overpowered her, which may be proven by her screaming and
    shouting for help (and the like).”

    (Al-Istidhkaar, 7/146)

    The Qatif
    Case

    Now that we have reviewed the Islamic Law on
    such a matter, let us examine the case which has created such an outcry. The
    truth is that the media has suppressed most of the facts, twisting the story in
    such a way with the simple intent of maligning the good image of
    Islam.

    It should be noted that the Qatif girl was
    having an affair on her husband, and this is what she was punished
    for.

    BBC News says

    “The woman was initially to be
    punished for violating strict gender segregation laws in Saudi Arabia, for
    riding in the car of a man who was not related to her when they were both
    attacked.

    source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7112999.stm”

    The liars at BBC have endeavored to make it seem as if the
    woman was simply punished for being in a car of a man; what a boldfaced lie! By
    this lie, the media has made it appear as if the Muslims would punish
    someone for such a seemingly menial crime. And yet, they have hidden the
    greatest fact of all, which is that the woman was having an illicit affair on
    her husband, and at the time of the alleged rape, she was in the car of the man
    with whom she was having an affair with! The Qatif adulteress confessed to
    having an affair on her husband, and this is all in her sworn
    testimony.

    Anonymous says

    “What do you mean by adultery? Are
    you accusing the woman of having sex?

    In this article, when we use the word “affair” and
    “adultery” then we are not referring to the actual sex act (i.e. penetration),
    but we use these words in the more general sense. The words such as “Zinnah”,
    “adulterous”, and “affair” are commonly used to refer to any relationship that
    threatens the marital oaths. Therefore, we consider the woman to be adulterous
    who sends nude photos of herself to men that are not her husband, has
    flirtatious chats with them on the internet, secretly meets up with them behind
    her husband’s back, etc. These crimes may not deserve the Hadd punishment, but
    they are deserving of the Ta’zeer punishment. To clarify, we cite the following
    fatwa:

    Question:

    Is zinaa intercourse only?

    Answer:

    Praise be to Allaah.

    Zinaa, in Arabic, means immorality, and is used with two
    meanings in shar’: a general meaning and a specific meaning.

    The general meaning includes that which carries the
    punishment (hadd) and that which does not carry it. Islam does not give the
    name of zinaa only to that which carries the punishment, which is just one of
    many types of zinaa. Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both) said:
    “I have never heard any better definition of ‘small faults’ [al-Najm 53:32]
    than that which Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) narrated from
    the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): ‘Allaah has decreed
    for every son of Adam his share of zinaa, and there is no way to escape from
    it. The zinaa of the eye is a glance, the zinaa of the tongue is speaking, and
    the zinaa of the mind is wishing and hoping; then the private part either acts
    upon this or it does not.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 11/26; Muslim,
    4/2046).

    Al-Bukhaari included this hadeeth in a chapter entitled
    Baab zinaa al-jawaarih doon al-farj (Chapter on the zinaa of faculties other
    than the private part).

    Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
    “Zinaa is not always associated with the private part itself, but may involve
    other faculties such as the eyes and so on.” Ibn Battaal (may Allaah have
    mercy on him) said: “Looking and speaking are called zinaa because they lead
    to real zinaa. This is why he said that the private part either acts upon this
    or it does not”

    http://www.islam-qa.com
    Anonymous says

    “Are you sure that she was having
    an illegal sexual affair with another man? This is a very serious charge and
    what if you are wrong? Do you want to be held responsible for this on the Day
    of Judgment? Do you not remember the incident of al-Ifk in which certain
    Muslims were spreading lies that a woman was an adulteress?

    We ourselves do not make any judgment on the woman, but
    rather it is up to the courts to decide the innocence or guilt of a person. The
    Qatif woman was tried in a court of law and found guilty of Zinnah (in the
    general sense of the word). She is a convicted Zaani (adulterer). Of
    course, with any crime, whether it is Zinnah or murder or theft, it is possible
    that a person is convicted mistakenly. However, this is not relevant to the
    discussion at hand; the question is: should a convicted adulterer be
    punished according to the Islamic Law? The bottom line point is that the Qatif
    woman was convicted of Zinnah and then she was sentenced based on that.
    This is a completely different scenario than the incident of al-Ifk; the
    Prophet’s wife (may Allah be pleased with her) was never found guilty of Zinnah
    in a court of law. Rather, she was found innocent of all charges. If there are
    merely rumors about a woman committing Zinnah, then of course it is wrong to
    spread such tales. But if a woman is found guilty in a court of law, then this
    is a different situation altogether. This is the same with all crimes; it is
    wrong to accuse anyone of anything if he has not been found guilty in a court of
    law.
    Because she was convicted in a court of law, there is a
    basis for saying that the Qatif woman was committing Zinnah in the general
    sense, if not the specific one. The Western media has tried to galvanize its
    readers by claiming that a woman is to be whipped in Saudi Arabia simply for
    sitting in a car with a man. This is deliberate obfuscation of the truth. It is
    like saying that a man divorced his wife just because she chatted on the
    internet. This sounds astonishingly fickle of the man to do this, but if one
    were to elaborate and say that his wife was chatting with a man with whom
    she was carrying out an illegal affair with, then nobody would be surprised
    that her husband divorced her for this. Likewise, when the media declares that a
    woman was punished simply for being in the car of a man, then this makes the
    Saudis seem barbaric. But when we elaborate and say that the Saudis punished a
    woman for being in a parked car with a man she was having an illicit affair
    with, then suddenly this does not seem so outrageous any more.

    Christian says

    “Whipping and stoning, the
    punishments of you Muslims, is barbaric!

    The Westerners claim that Islam is barbaric for allowing
    such penalties as stoning and whipping, and yet we find the exact same
    punishment in their own Bible! We read:

    “If a man commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, both
    the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death.”

    (Bible; Lev.20:10, Ezk.16:40,
    Jn.8:3)
    And:

    “If a damsel who is a virgin be betrothed unto a husband,
    and (another) man finds her in the city and lies with her, then ye shall bring
    them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones,
    that they die — the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city, and the
    man, because he hath humbled his neighbor’s wife; so thou shalt put away evil
    from among you.”

    (Bible; Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
    Is it not strange that the Christians do not take issue with
    their own Bible, but then create an outcry when we Muslims enforce similar
    punishments on convicted fornicators and adulterers? In the Qatif case, a woman
    was betrothed unto a husband, and she was having an affair on him with another
    man. The Bible, a book that the Christians claim came from God and something
    that we Muslims also hold to be true, commands death on such people. Therefore,
    we find that the Westerners have no right to accuse Islam of anything, because
    it is found in their own books.
    The Woman Confessed to Having an
    Affair

    The woman herself confessed to having an affair with that
    man who was in the car. Even BBC News was forced to report this fact:

    Saudi justice officials say a woman who was sentenced to
    prison and flogging after she was gang-raped has now confessed to an
    extramarital affair…

    It (the Saudi justice ministry) insisted the ruling was
    legal and that the woman had “confessed to doing what God has
    forbidden”.

    …“The Saudi justice minister expressed his regret about
    the media reports over the role of the woman in this case which put out false
    information and wrongly defend her,” the statement said.

    “The charged girl is a married woman who confessed to
    having an affair with the man she was caught with.”

    What happened on that night of the alleged rape was that the
    woman went out in the cover of the night to to the corniche to meet her lover. A
    group of men saw her get into the parked car at that spot. It was this group of
    men that followed her to the car, and according to the men, they caught her
    naked and being intimate with her lover.

    The woman did not admit to having sex with her lover, but
    she did admit to be carrying out an affair which went on for many long months.
    The two lovers admitted to the authorities that they were having an illicit
    relationship with each other, and this is in their signed and attested
    confessions. On top of this, the Saudi authorities had proof of the affair in
    the form of telephone calls, picture exchanges, and other such supporting
    evidences.

    With this evidence against the woman, it was impossible not
    to punish her under the Islamic Law; and this is not only Islamic Law, but
    rather it is God’s Law, as found in both the Quran (the Final Testament) as well
    as the previous scriptures such as the Bible.
    It is dishonest to state that she was punished simply for
    being in the car of a man; rather she was punished for being in the car of a man
    with whom she was having an affair with. There are degrees of
    “intermingling of the sexes”, and the Islamic Law would differ on the punishment
    depending on the situation. It is incorrect to claim that women are whipped in
    Saudi Arabia simply for being in a car with stranger men; the author himself has
    been to Saudi Arabia and knows that this is not the case, and if it were, then
    there would be similar cases every day! Indeed, if a couple is found dating in
    Saudi Arabia, then they are given warnings and told to go away by the religious
    police, or their parents are notified and warned. As such, it is a blatant lie
    and manipulation to claim that the Qatif woman was lashed for simply being in
    the car with another man. Rather, she was charged with Zinnah, and we all know
    what happens in parked cars.
    We read:

    New Ministry Statement on Qatif
    Case

    JEDDAH, 25 November 2007 — The [Saudi] Ministry of Justice
    issued a statement yesterday providing more details regarding the charges
    against a 19-year-old woman who was gang-raped by seven men in
    Qatif.

    The statement, which the ministry says is a response to
    media scrutiny of the ruling, said that the rape victim confessed to having an
    illegal affair with the man who was caught with her.

    “She went out with him without a mahram, a legal guardian,
    and exchanged forbidden affairs through the illegal khalwa,” the
    statement said. “They both confessed to doing what God forbids.”

    The ministry said: “The first verdict of 90 lashes was
    made according to Shariah. The woman and her husband were convinced and agreed
    to it on 10/10/1427.”
    …The ministry also claimed that the woman violated the
    sanctity of marriage.

    “She knows that ‘khalwa’ with an unrelated man is
    forbidden by Shariah and by doing this she has broken the sacred matrimonial
    contract,” the statement said.

    “The woman mentioned in her signed confession that she
    called from her husband’s house using her cell phone asking for a forbidden
    ‘khalwa’ in front of a shopping center,” the statement said.

    …The ministry claimed the woman was “in a state of
    indecency, having thrown off her clothes” and the two were abducted in a “dark
    side of the (Qatif) corniche” by the attackers after they saw the couple in
    this alleged state of indecency.
    How deceitful is the media: they used flashy
    headlines such as “rape victim gets lashes” instead of “woman convicted of
    adultery gets lashes”!

    Male is Lashed

    The media seek to portray our beautiful religion
    as sexist, claiming that we discriminate against women. To back this claim, they
    claim that it is unfair how the Qatif woman received ninety lashes whereas the
    group of men who allegedly raped her received jail-time only. This argument is
    completely refuted by the fact (and the hidden truth) that the woman’s lover
    received the same punishment:
    The woman’s companion was sentenced to 90
    lashes.

    BBC News

    How it is that the liars are exposed for their lies against
    Islam! How can one claim sexism in this case when the man and woman were both
    charged with the exact same sentence? And it is well-known that–under the
    Islamic Law–the punishment for rape is the same for men and women, so how then
    can anyone claim sexism?

    The Men Accused of Rape

    Now that we have clarified the punishment of the woman, let
    us move onto the issue of the men accused of rape, who were sentenced with a few
    months to five years in prison. The western media and the hypocrites ask:
    “Why is it that the rapists were given such lenient sentences?” Actually, some
    of the men were sentenced up to ten years (not five) and this is the same as the
    average sentence given to rapists in America! And it is double the average
    sentence of rapists in places like England, Scotland, etc. In any case, the
    reason that the men were not executed under Islamic Law was that there was
    simply a lack of evidence to charge them with the crime of rape.
    What really hurt the woman’s case is that she did not go to
    the police after the alleged rape. In fact, she did not report the case at all,
    and she remained silent about it for three months. Eventually what happened was
    that three months later, her husband was sent an anonymous email declaring that
    his wife had cheated on him on that day, having sex with many men at the
    corniche. The husband then confronted his wife about the matter, and she
    confessed to it but told him that she was raped by those men and that it was not
    consensual. This is when the husband notified the authorities and the case
    against the group of men was filed.
    We read:

    The statement [by the Saudi Ministry] claimed that the two
    victims of the gang rape hid the incident for three months until an e-mail was
    sent to the woman’s betrothed “informing him what happened to his wife, and
    her betrayal.”

    Arab News
    This fact considerably weakened the woman’s case: any woman
    would claim coercion when her indiscretions were caught by her husband! And this
    was three months after the event. Even in America, it is important for a rape
    victim to report the crime within twenty-fours, so that important medical tests
    can be done to prove that it was a case of rape and not consensual sex. This
    medical test would document defensive wounds on the hands and nails, wounding of
    the genitalia, sperm stains, DNA evidence, and the like. Without this evidence,
    it is impossible–even in the United States–to prove rape. In fact, when the
    Qatif woman’s husband finally reported the crime three months after the event,
    the Saudi authorities asked her to have some medical tests done in order to
    gather evidence to support her case, but she herself refused because she knew
    that so much time had passed that any evidence was long gone.

    It is very difficult to prove rape without any medical
    evidence of force, or any witnesses to the scene of the crime. It becomes a
    matter of her word against his. What could prevent an angry ex from accusing her
    former boyfriend of raping her many months ago? The group of men accused of rape
    deny raping the Qatif woman. They claim that she offered herself to them in
    exchange for promises of silence; however, none of the men admitted to accepting
    her offer. A few of the men admitted to witnessing the rape, but none of them
    admitted to the actual rape. It became a circular accusation, whereby each man
    claimed innocence and put the blame on the other men. As such, it became
    impossible to tell which of the men were guilty and which were
    innocent.
    The problem of convicting rapists is not limited to the
    Muslim world, but rather it is a worldwide dilemma, and this is due to the very
    nature of rape. It is very difficult to prove coercion. This is a problem
    experienced by American women as well:

    Rape

    For women, rape might appear to be an open and shut case;
    if we do not consent to sex, a rape has been committed. Unfortunately, it is
    not this simple in the courts. Rape is often very difficult to prove. The lack
    of consent is one element of proving a rape, but in many states, this is not
    enough to prove that a rape has occurred.
    The common law definition of rape is “sexual intercourse
    achieved by force or threat of force without consent of the victim”. By
    requiring force or the threat of force, the legal system perpetuates the myth
    that a rapist is a strange man who jumps from behind the bushes at night. In
    addition, when there is a force or threat of force requirement, non-physical
    or non-imminent threats are not enough to prove a rape. As if this does not
    make proving rape difficult enough, many states also require the proof of
    “reasonable resistance” on the part of the rape victim.
    With the current rules in many jurisdictions, it is
    difficult for women in an abusive relationship to prove rape because 1) the
    abuse might be emotional so there might not be physical force or 2) the fear
    and submission to sex might be due to past violence and not a contemporaneous
    threat. For example, in State v. Alston, a woman broke off an abusive
    relationship with her boyfriend. The woman saw her abusive ex-boyfriend some
    time much later and they had sex. Even though the ex-boyfriend did not
    physically force the woman to have sex, there was implicit threat of force due
    to past incidents. A lower court convicted the man but he appealed and a
    higher court reversed the conviction due to a lack of physical
    force.
    Another complexity with the force or threat of physical
    force requirement is that courts distinguish between offers and threats. The
    difference might seem clear, an offer makes you better off and a threat makes
    you worse off. However, sometimes the difference is murky and two cases,
    demonstrate this. In Thompson, a higher court reversed the conviction of a
    high school principal who told a female senior that she would not graduate
    unless she “slept” with him. The senior had sex with the principal in order to
    graduate. According to the higher court, the principal did not threaten the
    young woman, he offered her something, and that was not sufficient to
    constitute a rape.
    Similarly, in Commonwealth v. Mlinarich, a higher court
    reversed the conviction of a man who had custody of a teenage girl who had
    previously been in a juvenile detention facility. The man told the girl that
    he would return her to the facility if she did not have sex with him. She
    complied. Even though the man was initially convicted, he appealed and the
    higher court said that he made the child an offer and did not threaten her.
    Luckily some states have abolished the threat and reasonable resistance
    requirements, but they are in the minority.
    WomenMatter.org
    Not a single one of the men admitted to having sex with the
    Qatif woman, let alone admitting to raping her. As such, it turned into her word
    against theirs. Without any medical evidence or witnesses to back up her claim,
    how could the judges sentence a group of men to death? The difficulty in
    securing rape convictions is a problem not only in Muslim countries but also
    Western ones. BBC News said in another one of its articles that only 5.6% of
    alleged rapists were ever convicted by the law:

    Rape convictions hit record
    low

    The percentage of reported rapes to lead to convictions in
    England and Wales has fallen to an all-time low, according to a Home Office
    study.

    The number of rapes reported is rising – but only 5.6% of
    11,766 reports in 2002 led to a rapist being convicted.

    BBC News

    The Indiana Daily says:

    Campus rape reports outweigh arrests 43 to
    1
    Authorities say use of force is difficult to prove

    …Rapes often go unpunished because it’s difficult for
    authorities to prove an offender used force.

    …Once women do come forward and report, the next issue
    police face is having enough proof to take the case to court. The main
    reason so few men are arrested lies with the difficulty of proving force in a
    courtroom, Slone said.

    …Collecting evidence remains another problem in attempting
    to prosecute. Police often don’t find out about the crime until much later,
    Slone said, losing the timely opportunity to collect physical evidence, often
    bodily fluids. After about 72 hours, that evidence deteriorates, she
    said, making it nearly impossible to prove.

    Slone emphasized that women can have the evidence taken at
    the hospital, which is referred to as a rape kit, without actually reporting
    the crime to the police. By putting that evidence in what she refers to as the
    “evidence refrigerator,” victims can take their time to decide if they want to
    press charges. Without physical evidence, Slone said, the case becomes
    a “he said, she said” issue.

    “Many cases that we see, the women do not want to go so
    far as to go to court with it,” Slone said. “To point the finger and say ‘You
    did this thing to me.’ It’s really difficult. Particularly if they know the
    guy may serve prison time. … Are they going to bring this guy to prison for X
    amount of years based on her word?”

    Indiana Daily Student News

    The American police officer, Sgt. Leslie Slone, says that
    after 72 hours the evidence for rape disappears and it becomes virtually
    impossible to prove rape after that. And yet, in the Qatif case, over three
    months had passed, so are we surprised then when the Saudi courts could not
    convict the men on charges of rape?
    The Qatif woman was caught telling many lies both to the
    court and to the media; she betrayed her husband and lied to him, etc. So how
    could the single testimony of an immoral liar and self-confessed adulteress be
    enough to send nine men to death? Truly it would be a strange country that would
    send nine men to death without any proof except the single testimony of one
    woman who has proven herself to be unreliable.

    Why Was the Woman’s Punishment
    Doubled?

    In the United States, the media becomes the judge, jury, and
    executioner. It is well-known in the legal community that high profile cases are
    won before they even get to the courts; whatever version the media wishes to
    portray will become the dominant story. This is called “spin” in legal parlance.
    Under Islamic Law, however, the manipulation of cases is not allowed. In Saudi
    Arabia, it is not permitted to use the media to manipulate the justice system.
    If the judges allowed the Qatif woman to do that, then this would become the
    norm in Saudi Arabia, like it is in America.
    The Qatif woman fed a story to the media, covering up
    important facts such as her affair, and she did all of this in an attempt to put
    pressure on the courts through the media. Not only this, but she contacted
    Western media outlets which in turn fired up anti-Islamic leaders who further
    put pressure on the King of Saudi Arabia to overturn the decision. This Qatif
    woman betrayed the Muslim nation; she made a mockery of Islamic Law, helping to
    portray it as unjust and barbaric. And for this, her sentence was doubled, and
    rightfully so. Not only did she commit a crime, but she betrayed her nation and
    made a mockery of Islam, selling her deceitful story to the major media
    outlets.

    However, it should be noted that it was not only
    her punishment which was doubled, but also the punishment of the men.
    The punishment of the men was raised in order to remove doubts that bias was
    being shown against the woman, and also because of the dangerous nature of the
    crime.

    Why Was Her Lawyer to be
    Disbarred?

    Abdul-Rahman al-Lahem, the woman’s lawyer, is being
    portrayed as some sort of human rights hero. Abdul-Rahman violated the law and ethics by seeking to manipulate the media in order to put pressure on the justice system.
    And this is why he should be disbarred. So we condemn him (verbally) based on
    his religious treachery and we ask him to be disbarred (legally) based on his
    unethical manipulations of the justice system.
    Anonymous says

    “ If the woman was found guilty of
    adultery, then why was she not sentenced to death as per Islamic Law? Where in
    the Shar’iah is there a punishment of ninety lashes? Either she is to be
    stoned to death or she is not to be punished, but lashing does not make any
    sense and has no basis in Islamic Law.
    The one who makes such an argument is in fact not capable of
    expounding Islamic Law, since he does not even know the very basics of Shari’ah.
    Such a person is reeking of ignorance and has made a complete buffoon of
    himself! The punishment of death by stoning is one of the Hadd punishments, and
    it is awarded to only those who complete the sexual act (i.e. penetration).
    However, for anything less than that, the judges can levy Ta’zeer punishment on
    the culprit. The Qatif woman admitted to having an illicit relationship with her
    lover and cheating on her husband, but she did not admit to engaging in the
    sexual act (i.e. penetration). As such, she cannot be awarded the Hadd
    punishment since there was no proof of penetration, but because she admitted to
    lesser than that (i.e. an illicit affair), she should be punished for that.
    Obviously, the punishment for lesser than that would be a lesser punishment, and
    this is why she was given lashes instead of death. Under Saudi law, whatever
    falls short of the sexual act (such as kissing, necking, fondling, foreplay,
    etc) is still a punishable offense as stipulated in their penal code, and this
    has basis in Islamic Law.
    Had the Qatif woman admitted to engaging in the sexual act,
    then she would have been given the Hadd punishment; but because she did not, she
    was punished for what she did admit to (i.e. Ta’zeer). It is the
    Rawaafidh who have voiced their discontent the most, and we have heard many of
    them complain that this woman should not have been punished since she did not
    admit to the actual sex act; yet it should be known that these Rawaafidh are
    being dishonest, because even in their religion do they believe in Ta’zeer! In
    Iran, youngsters are routinely punished for ‘intermingling’ with the opposite
    sex, by which we mean kissing, necking, fondling, foreplay, etc. Maybe these
    Rawaafidh should go to the streets of Tehran and do these things to see how the
    Iranian police and justice system react!
    Anonymous says

    “ You say that there is no
    evidence that the men committed rape, but we have the confessions of the men
    themselves!

    None of the men admitted to engaging in the rape themselves.
    However, during the interrogation, some of the men admitted to having been
    witnesses to the rape. In other words, all of the men denied that they
    themselves were a part of the rape, but some of them pointed the finger at
    others. During the trial, however, these men claimed that they were coerced by
    the police into “naming names”; it is known that forced confessions have no
    merit. Under Islamic Law, when a man retracts his confession, then this is
    enough Shubha (doubt) to weaken its validity in court.
    Because the woman failed to report the crime except after
    three months when her husband found out about her betrayal–and because she
    refused to take any medical tests–there was no evidence against the men. All
    that the prosecutor had against them was the accusation of the woman and their
    confessions against each other. And yet, both the accusation and the confessions
    had serious problems. The accusation by the woman was tainted by the fact that
    the men countered her accusation by claiming that she was only trying to cover
    up her betrayal of her husband; according to them, she was willing to have sex
    with all of them, and she wanted to cover this up from her husband, lest he
    think of her as promiscuous and loose. She only made these claims of rape
    after her husband was notified about her betrayal, and before that, she
    did not utter a single word to the authorities. The men argued that any woman
    would claim rape if her husband found out about her betrayal.

    Unfortunately, the woman weakened her case substantially by
    failing to notify the authorities except after her betrayal was exposed by her
    husband. She was engaged in dubious activities, and such a person’s testimony
    could not possibly be used to send a group of men to their death. It is known
    that she lied to her husband when she left her house on that day, and before
    that as well when she used to call her lover, and that she lied to her husband
    many times after the incident for three months, and she was caught in many lies
    and inconsistencies during the court proceedings, and she even lied to the
    media; as such, the reality is that a liar’s testimony in court is seriously
    called into question.

    The Western media has tried to single out Saudi Arabia, but
    the reality is that cases like this are tried all the time in America.
    Oftentimes the only witnesses in drug cases are other criminals; when these
    criminals testify against the drug dealers, then they serve as very weak
    witnesses, because the jury is not inclined to believe a criminal’s testimony.
    If a prostitute witnessed a rape or was herself raped, then she would serve as a
    very weak witness due to her dubious character, and this is a fact in many
    trials in the United States! It may be that adulterers are not seen as anything
    evil in the West, yet to the upright Muslims, a fornicator and adulteress is a
    very weak witness by virtue of her dubious character. It is not proper that
    fourteen families lose their sons based on the singular testimony of an
    adulterous, immoral, dubious, and lying woman.

    As for the confessions of the men, then these too were
    problematic, because none of the men admitted to anything themselves. Instead
    they pointed the fingers at others, and they claimed that these confessions were
    forced by the police; the men had been led to believe that if they gave up their
    own friends then their own punishment could be warded off or at least lessened.
    So we see that the accusation by the woman and the confessions by the men could
    not be called impartial, since each benefited from them in some way.
    Furthermore, the accusation by the accuser cannot stand as proof in court, which
    goes without saying; and under Islamic Law, retracted and/or forced confessions
    cannot be used.
    The truth is that the woman could not bring forth any proof
    because she destroyed all such proof by failing to report the crime on time. And
    she failed to do this because of her own indecencies. It may sound morbid to
    say, but it is simply the truth. It is similar to the man who robs a bank and is
    then assaulted by another robber; he cannot report the assault to the police
    because it will reveal his crime of robbery. Likewise, the Qatif woman could not
    go to the police about her rape because at that very moment she had been
    engaging in an illicit affair with a man that was not her husband. It is sad,
    but it is a reality; and it is one of the very reasons that we should not
    violate the law or live outside of it, because then we may forfeit many of our
    rights within that law. That woman had the right to be protected under the law,
    but she herself willingly forfeited that right in order to cover up her
    crime.

    Anonymous says

    “ The woman did not admit to
    having an affair! She said she was not involved with that man, but rather she
    was involved with that man prior to marriage and he had a compromising photo
    of her. He had threatened to show that nude photo to her current husband
    unless she agreed to meet him at that spot of the corniche. She had agreed to
    the meeting only as a means to retrieve the photo.

    The Qatif woman has lied; the Saudi ministry of justice has
    clearly stated that she admitted to having an illicit affair:
    “The woman in the case is married and has confessed to
    establishing a relationship in violation of [Islamic] sharia law,” the Saudi
    justice ministry said in a statement.

    Al-Jazeera News

    And:

    On Saturday the Saudi justice ministry said the rape
    victim was a married woman who allegedly confessed to cheating on her
    husband.

    It said she and her lover had met in his car for a tryst
    “in a dark place where they stayed for a while”.

    Al-Jazeera News
    It is amazing that the hypocrites would believe an
    adulterous woman above that of an entire ministry, but this is the state of
    their extreme bias whereby they would believe in anything so long as it helps
    them malign the so-called “Wahabis.” The woman’s claims that she went only to
    retrieve a photo contradict the reality, because she admitted in the court that
    she met her lover twice in the same month, once during the first days of Shawwal
    and another time on that fateful Thursday. Therefore, this does not seem like
    some sort of emergency meeting for her to take back photos, but rather it seems
    like an ongoing affair. Furthermore, this has been confirmed by incoming and
    outgoing phone calls, as well as picture exchanges that had taken place between
    the woman and her lover. The Qatif woman had sent sexually explicit photos of
    herself to her lover. We know of only one reason why people do this, i.e. to
    entice lovers and invigorate their carnal desires!
    The woman claimed she was raped “after she had gone to
    retrieve a photograph of herself from a high school friend after just getting
    married.” (Al-Jazeera News) So why had
    she sent a compromising photo of herself to that man in the first place? Is this
    fact not enough to prove that she was involved in an illicit affair with a man
    she was not married to? Sending nude photos to others is a crime under Islamic
    Law; does anybody disagree with us on this? If the stubborn hypocrites would
    contest this fact with us, then do they think it is permissible for a woman to
    pose for nude pictures and distribute them? This is called pornography and
    surely this is haram (forbidden) under Islamic Law! The fact that this woman
    sent a compromising photo of herself to a man who is not her husband is enough
    to charge her with indecent acts, which justifies her punishment of
    lashing.

    Anonymous says

    “ Perhaps she did not give the
    photo of herself to that man willingly, and she was extorted into it.

    How in the world would she get into such a situation? On
    what basis did the man somehow force her to send nude photos of herself? If the
    woman replies that he was using her illicit premarital affair with him as a
    means to get a photo from her, then once again she has admitted to guilt under
    the Shari’ah and she would be punished for a relationship outside of
    marriage!

    What if the woman had been caught in the sex act? Would she
    then defend herself by saying that the man had extorted her into that, by
    threatening to release the photos? Let us imagine a similar scenario in which a
    man is caught by police whilst trying to rob a bank. When the man is
    apprehended, he says: “I was forced into robbing the bank by another man who had
    a picture of me having sex with another woman, and I was fearful that this man
    would show it to my wife.” Would the police suddenly let the robber go? Surely
    the law does not validate such justifications, otherwise no crime could be
    punishable! Every single person would claim that he or she was coerced into it.
    The fact is that the robber was caught at the scene of the crime, just as Qatif
    woman placed herself in a parked car with another man in a dark and isolated
    spot.
    Even if we believe her story about being extorted, the court
    cannot simply waive off her crime. If this were the case, then no single case of
    adultery could ever be brought to the courts, because every defendant would
    claim that “I didn’t want to do such-and-such sexual act with my lover, but he
    promised to expose me to my husband about our relationship, so I did it.” The
    truth is that if the Qatif woman had never done anything wrong with the lover in
    the first place, then he could never have extorted her; he was only able to
    extort her due to her crime with him. If this were not the case, how did she get
    herself into such a compromising and vulnerable position? If she had been a
    completely chaste Muslim woman, then she would have been completely loyal to her
    husband and would have never been involved with the other man at all. But
    instead she was involved with that man, and–according to her–that man was able
    to extort her based on this illicit relationship which she either was currently
    in or had in the past. Either way, she was in some sort of illegal affair
    punishable by the Shari’ah.

    We have to remember that the Saudi judges are acting in
    accordance to the law, not their personal sentiments. If a crime was committed,
    then they must punish it according to the law.

    Anonymous says

    “ The woman was gang-raped…is this
    not enough of a punishment for any crime on her part?

    Unfortunately, the law does not work in this manner. Let us
    imagine the scenario in which a black man is robbing a bank, and whilst he is
    doing that, a racist white Ku Klux Klan member catches him and roughs up the
    black man. In this case, would the law excuse the black man for robbery, on the
    basis that he already got what he deserved (or worse) from the white man? We
    find that this is not the case even in the United States of America; the black
    man would still be punished under the law for his crime of robbery. Meanwhile,
    the white man would be charged for assault and a hate crime. The two punishments
    would be handed down separately and independent of each other. One crime does
    not cancel out another crime. This would create a state of chaos, anarchy, and
    vigilante justice.

    In the Western countries, we find that if a woman murders a
    rapist or a child kidnapper, then that woman is still tried for murder. Yes, we
    all sympathize with that woman because we understand her emotions, but
    nonetheless, the law cannot excuse her for the crime of murder. If the law began
    to excuse crimes based on justifications, then this would open Pandora’s box.
    The rule of law would disappear and all criminals could claim that their crimes
    were either justified by the law or that they had already received due
    punishment in the outside world. Can we imagine a court excusing a man for
    robbery simply because another crime had been committed against the robber? Or
    perhaps because the robber’s son died in a car accident? Could not a lawyer
    argue that it is not right to jail a man for robbery when he already lost his
    son “which is punishment enough”? Surely this is a very dangerous and
    inappropriate line of reasoning. Each crime must be dealt with individually.

    If a woman robs a bank and she is raped during the heist,
    would the court absolve her of the crime of robbery? The reality is that the
    Westerners and the hypocrites do not think of fornication as a crime like
    robbery, and this is why they are unable to see the parallel! But truly theft is
    a minor crime compared to adultery, and this is what the believers hold to be
    true. The problem is that the Westerners come from a nation of fornicators and
    adulterers, so they in their minds trivialize the crime of adultery. If a woman
    commits a crime, then she will be punished for that crime; if a crime is done to
    her, then the men who did that crime will be punished. But one crime does not
    cancel out the other, nor do they have any relation to each other. Each will be
    dealt with separately and independently.
    This is not an emotional matter which the judges can simply
    change because the ruling does not sit well with the people. This is rather a
    matter of Fiqh (jurisprudence): two crimes were alleged, and each was judged
    according to the law. The woman was found guilty for her crime because of her
    confession in court, and the men were not found guilty because of lack of
    evidence. (And we remind the reader that nobody can claim sexism since the Qatif
    woman’s extramarital lover, a man, was also given the same sentence of
    lashing!)
    Anonymous says

    “ You say that there was no
    evidence to convict the men with rape, but they were convicted of
    rape! Why else were they given jail-time!

    The men were not found guilty of Zinnah, but rather some of
    them had admitted to witnessing Zinnah. Therefore, the men were found guilty of
    engaging in dubious activities, but it was difficult to secure a rape conviction
    due to a lack of evidence and contradictory statements made by the accuser. When
    there is not enough evidence to secure a Hadd punishment, then Ta’zeer
    punishment can be meted out based on the level of involvement in a crime.

    Furthermore, it should be noted that the alleged
    rapists were given a sentence of ten years imprisonment which is the
    average sentence given to convicted rapists in America and double what
    the average sentence is in many European countries such as England and Scotland!
    So why is it then that the Westerners are complaining that the alleged
    rapists were not punished severely enough when their convicted
    rapists routinely get less than that? Could it possibly be that they are
    dishonest in their intentions, and that they only seek to attack Islam under the
    guise of human rights?

    Abeer Mishkhas of Arab News says

    “ To add to all of the above, we
    know that the girl’s husband has supported her throughout her ordeal and this
    says volumes about who has the right to be upset about her meeting another
    man.

    In the Islamic Law (as well as in the Judeo-Christian
    tradition), there is no condition that adultery is not to be punished simply
    because the spouse forgives! Therefore, the opinion of the husband cannot ward
    off the punishment. To give another example, we do not ward off the penalty for
    rape just because the woman forgives the rapist. When someone breaches a law,
    then the state punishes the individual, not the aggrieved party. As such, the
    aggrieved party cannot ward off the penalty either.
    In the West, some married couples have what is called an
    “open relationship” whereby they allow their spouses to sleep around with
    multiple partners. And yet, such people are to be punished by the law despite
    the fact that their acts have been “forgiven” by their spouse. Surely Allah
    Almighty is the one who forgives such crimes, not any human being. Once the case
    has been registered, then it must go to trial and litigated to its
    end.

    Anonymous says

    “ She was not in khulwah when she
    was abducted, nor was she in some isolated place, but rather she was next to a
    public shopping mall where there were many people passing by…

    ”

    This is a lie. If they were in a public place where “many
    people [were] passing by”, then how is it that she was abducted without people
    seeing that? By definition it must have been a secluded place, because she was
    hiding from her husband, nobody witnessed the incident, etc. In any case, there
    is no need for speculation because the Saudi ministry refuted this claim by
    declaring that the Qatif woman had been in a parked car “in a dark place where
    they stayed for a while”.

    Conclusion

    The Qatif case is a Fiqhi (jurisprudential) matter, and the
    judges followed the letter of the law and there is no blame on them. The manner
    in which some people are attacking the judges is completely inappropriate, and
    it stems from the media which has waged an ideological war against Islam.
    Unfortunately many Muslims have fallen into the trap and they have parroted the
    accusations of the enemies of Islam. Indeed, these Muslims should realize that
    they are allying themselves with a people who seek to diminish the Islamic Law.

    The Westerners imply that whipping and stoning are barbaric
    practices, yet we find the same punishments mentioned in their own holy book
    (i.e. the Bible)! And they seek to decriminalize fornication and adultery, even
    though their own holy book says to kill the one who does such things. And this
    is because they have a disease in their hearts by which they disbelieve in God’s
    Laws even though they claim to be believers; and they come from a morally
    corrupt society like the people of Sodom which were destroyed by God. How could
    they uphold God’s Laws which are in their own Bible when ninety-five percent of
    them have committed either fornication or adultery sometime in their lives? Is
    such a society capable of passing moral judgments on Muslims? Muslims are
    the moral ones, who abstain from sexual crimes and uphold God’s Laws which are
    even in their own Christian books.
    As for the woman accused of adultery and the men accused of
    rape, then it should be known that these are two separate issues that must be
    dealt with individually and independently. The woman confessed to the crime of
    having an illicit relationship and as such there is no question about her guilt.
    Even if we believe her story about retrieving a photograph, then this in itself
    is evidence of a crime: sending nude or semi-nude pictures is a crime in any
    God-fearing country. As for the alleged rape, then the woman failed to report
    the crime except after three months by which time all evidence had been lost. We
    have shown how even the Western authorities admit that it is nearly impossible
    to prove rape after seventy-two hours have passed. Therefore it is no surprise
    that after three months there was no evidence to convict the men with. The men
    cannot be hanged based on public sentiment alone. They cannot be hanged by the
    media, but rather they should be tried by the objective judiciary. The media,
    run by enemies of the Islamic Shari’ah, cannot be trusted with this case; the
    Western public views this incident in a highly emotional manner without knowing
    the facts, and they wish to lynch the men (i.e. mob justice).
    The woman may have been raped, and if she was, then we know
    that Allah Almighty will punish the rapists in the next life. Allah Almighty
    knows all and sees all, and in the Court of the Lord each criminal will pay for
    his sin. But in the court of man, we can only judge men on the evidence which is
    apparent to us, and we cannot look inside the hearts like Allah. Therefore, if
    the men did rape the woman, then they have been given lenience only for a short
    time, and then Allah will deal with them. If, however, they were innocent, then
    Allah knows that too. We ask Allah to curse all rapists whoever and wherever
    they may be, the known and the hidden.
    We close with these words:

    Clearly, in many criminal events there are no clear-cut
    victims and criminals, quite often both sides are guilty. Saudi law clearly
    criminalises unchaperoned one-on-one contact, as a public safety measure,
    designed to prevent the occurrence of exactly this kind of situation. Saudi
    Arabia must be congratulated for their low crime rate. Scurrilous attacks on
    the judiciary such as the one committed by the alleged victim are deserving of
    punishment.
    (Mike, Sacramento, USA; as posted on the BBC
    website)

    The irony is that the Qatif case is being used to attack the
    Islamic Law. And yet, this incident only underscores the importance of the
    divinely inspired Shari’ah. Oftentimes the people ask why it is that Islam has
    such strict laws against women being alone in cars and secluded places with
    unrelated men. This is exactly the reason, so that such things do not happen. No
    woman deserves to be raped, and we do not say that any woman deserves it, nor is
    it a part of our faith to claim this. Yet, we say that women should remain
    vigilant and adhere to the Islamic Laws, refraining from dubious activities, and
    if they do this, then it is much less likely that they would ever place
    themselves in such a compromising position. Had the Qatif woman not engaged in
    sinful activities like sending illicit pictures of herself, and had she been one
    hundred percent loyal and honest to her husband, then she would never have been
    there on that day and none of this would have happened. And even if it had
    happened somehow, then she would not have feared going to the authorities and
    her rapists could have been punished severely. Instead, due to her betrayal, she
    placed herself in the jaws of evil, and she was unable to cry for
    help.
    The entire Qatif incident is very unfortunate, and it is
    unclear the level of guilt or innocence of the woman and the alleged assailants.
    However, the judges did the best they could, given the scenario and the evidence
    presented to them. Either the involved Ulema will get one or two rewards for
    their Ijtihad. We seek refuge from those Taghoot who use this incident as a
    means to attack the sacred Shar’iah, as well as those whose only aim is to
    increase sectarian tension.

    May Allah Almighty unite our hearts upon the path of
    Islam.

    Article Written By: Ibn al-Hashimi,
    http://www.ahlelbayt.com

  22. 22
    Sparky Said:
    December:28:2007 - 08:19 

    Personal Tip: Less is More and quite more effective than a Big Dump.

    I have looked a judge in his eyes and told him that he was not ruling according to shariah in a personal matter. He just laughed and found it amusing that this American Muslim was telling him that and wanted to engage further until my husband told me to close my mouth.

    Islam needs no defending but people’s personal actions may need defending in this case the judges decision needed to be defended. Kaz open your eyes wider. Remove your blindfolds and see how women are treated. Is there equality of the sexes in terms of Islamic Justice in Saudi Arabia?

    Let us not pepetuate inequality and unfair treatment and prop judges who know themselves that they are not ruling according to Islamic Law.

    Also what incentive does her husband have to defend his wife? If I was in the situation and my husband thought I might be guilty, he would throw the first stone. Ask any Saudi man on the street and I think they would say the same. The Qatif girl, her husband and her lawyer maintained that she was not acting lewd. Islam is not supposed to force or coerce a confession out of someone. It is between them and God. I know stories of God’s mercy. People like acting out God’s wrath because it is a power HIGH.

    There was a weird (promiscuous looking) Saudi lady who was going to a hospital and she lodged a complaint against a foreign Arab man who had worked at the hospital. She said he had exposed himself to her. Everybody who knew the man said, “Impossible! NO WAY!” None the less he was forced to sign a paper he was guilty or he would lose his job. He signed the paper!

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