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	<title>Comments on: More on the Case of &#8216;Fatima&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Saudi in US</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2007/02/20/more-on-the-case-of-fatima/comment-page-1/#comment-10719</link>
		<dc:creator>Saudi in US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AbuSinan,

I am not sure if Islam allows annulment to start with. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can provide us with input on that. Is annulment allowed? and under what conditions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AbuSinan,</p>
<p>I am not sure if Islam allows annulment to start with. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can provide us with input on that. Is annulment allowed? and under what conditions?</p>
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		<title>By: AbuSinan</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2007/02/20/more-on-the-case-of-fatima/comment-page-1/#comment-10717</link>
		<dc:creator>AbuSinan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you see things like this it is AMAZING just how unIslamic the society in Saudi really is!  There is nothing in Islam that would allow for a family member to annul a marriage against the wishes of the two people involved, especially over an issue of class/tribal caste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you see things like this it is AMAZING just how unIslamic the society in Saudi really is!  There is nothing in Islam that would allow for a family member to annul a marriage against the wishes of the two people involved, especially over an issue of class/tribal caste.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2007/02/20/more-on-the-case-of-fatima/comment-page-1/#comment-10714</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that while it is possible for someone to fall into the role of playing victim...

HOWEVER I also believe

People have a choice whether or not they are going to be perpetual victims

The Qatif girl case is one case example...She started out a victim and then chose a different role for herself... 

By the way, good point regarding this mother&#039;s relation to the half-brothers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that while it is possible for someone to fall into the role of playing victim&#8230;</p>
<p>HOWEVER I also believe</p>
<p>People have a choice whether or not they are going to be perpetual victims</p>
<p>The Qatif girl case is one case example&#8230;She started out a victim and then chose a different role for herself&#8230; </p>
<p>By the way, good point regarding this mother&#8217;s relation to the half-brothers!</p>
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		<title>By: olivetheoil</title>
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		<dc:creator>olivetheoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mother has no business commenting on her daughter&#039;s life when her daughter herself has repeatedly established that she is happy in her marriage. I am curious: is the troublesome half-brother this woman&#039;s son? Also, why should the husband be forced to attend the circus that seemed to have been enacted in the courts. Was the couple even called to the court? Weren&#039;t the proceedings initiated by the brother without the knowledge of the couple? I don&#039;t Mansour as weak. I see him the victim of a bunch of scheming, unethical in-laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mother has no business commenting on her daughter&#8217;s life when her daughter herself has repeatedly established that she is happy in her marriage. I am curious: is the troublesome half-brother this woman&#8217;s son? Also, why should the husband be forced to attend the circus that seemed to have been enacted in the courts. Was the couple even called to the court? Weren&#8217;t the proceedings initiated by the brother without the knowledge of the couple? I don&#8217;t Mansour as weak. I see him the victim of a bunch of scheming, unethical in-laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2007/02/20/more-on-the-case-of-fatima/comment-page-1/#comment-10712</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the mother in that it Mansour does appear as a weak man, but what to expect when someone and much of society believes you are an inferior creation...even a judge of God would rule on the unworthiness of his existence and rights. 

 However, if her daughter, Fatima,was so much suffering why wouldnâ€™t she run in the arms of the relatives who are supposedly rescuing her from a life of poverty and begging? Last time I checked being poor isnâ€™t a crime. The mother is stupid, â€œWHY is she worried about how he treated his OTHER wives?â€ We are talking about her daughter. WHY, WHAT? NOâ€¦


I think the mother is terrified like Fatima and has been coerced with her statements in defending her familyâ€™s sinful, shameful and prejudiced behavior. Two thumbs down mommy...you just made it worse and if other Saudis read it they are going to see right through it to the blatantly blazing truth, 

&quot;YOU and your family are the oppressors!&quot; Hasbeeallahwawhonanamamahwakeel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the mother in that it Mansour does appear as a weak man, but what to expect when someone and much of society believes you are an inferior creation&#8230;even a judge of God would rule on the unworthiness of his existence and rights. </p>
<p> However, if her daughter, Fatima,was so much suffering why wouldnâ€™t she run in the arms of the relatives who are supposedly rescuing her from a life of poverty and begging? Last time I checked being poor isnâ€™t a crime. The mother is stupid, â€œWHY is she worried about how he treated his OTHER wives?â€ We are talking about her daughter. WHY, WHAT? NOâ€¦</p>
<p>I think the mother is terrified like Fatima and has been coerced with her statements in defending her familyâ€™s sinful, shameful and prejudiced behavior. Two thumbs down mommy&#8230;you just made it worse and if other Saudis read it they are going to see right through it to the blatantly blazing truth, </p>
<p>&#8220;YOU and your family are the oppressors!&#8221; Hasbeeallahwawhonanamamahwakeel</p>
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		<title>By: al-fallujah</title>
		<link>http://xrdarabia.org/2007/02/20/more-on-the-case-of-fatima/comment-page-1/#comment-10707</link>
		<dc:creator>al-fallujah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saudia arabia is such a fraudulent corrupt society. it can&#039;t last much longer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saudia arabia is such a fraudulent corrupt society. it can&#8217;t last much longer</p>
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