Comments on: Saudis Cleared in 9/11 Suits http://xrdarabia.org/2005/01/20/saudis-cleared-in-911-suits/ Informed comment and commentary about Saudi Arabia, reform, and its relations with the US Wed, 16 May 2012 23:44:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Crossroads Arabia » Up-Tick in US-Saudi Relations http://xrdarabia.org/2005/01/20/saudis-cleared-in-911-suits/comment-page-1/#comment-442 Crossroads Arabia » Up-Tick in US-Saudi Relations Fri, 23 Sep 2005 01:54:55 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=619#comment-442 [...] This decision, like the one Judge Casey made earlier this year, does not address issues of culpability, but rather the matter of jurisdiction. By John @ 21:54 | Permalink No Comments » [...] [...] This decision, like the one Judge Casey made earlier this year, does not address issues of culpability, but rather the matter of jurisdiction. By John @ 21:54 | Permalink No Comments » [...]

]]> By: John http://xrdarabia.org/2005/01/20/saudis-cleared-in-911-suits/comment-page-1/#comment-441 John Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:50:17 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=619#comment-441 To the best of my reckoning, here's what happened: Several suits were filed, both in the Washington, DC and New York District Courts. When the same/very similar suits are filed in different District Courts, they are usually consolidated in one or the other. In this case, all lawsuits concerning 9/11 were moved to the NY District Court as the most apt venue, since that was where the WTC towers were and that's where most of the victims were when they were killed. The Air Transportation Security Act appears to be the legislation ordering the consolidation of the suits and unification of venue in New York. To the best of my reckoning, here’s what happened:

Several suits were filed, both in the Washington, DC and New York District Courts. When the same/very similar suits are filed in different District Courts, they are usually consolidated in one or the other.

In this case, all lawsuits concerning 9/11 were moved to the NY District Court as the most apt venue, since that was where the WTC towers were and that’s where most of the victims were when they were killed.

The Air Transportation Security Act appears to be the legislation ordering the consolidation of the suits and unification of venue in New York.

]]> By: Amanda http://xrdarabia.org/2005/01/20/saudis-cleared-in-911-suits/comment-page-1/#comment-440 Amanda Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:22:00 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=619#comment-440 Hopefully one of you can help my understanding of the 9/11 lawsuits. I read an article from a couple of years ago that a lawsuit was filed in the US District Court for the District of Colmubia by over 900 people against Saudi Arabia and others. However, the ruling issued this week that cleared the Saudi government and others was handed down by the New York District Court. Does anyone know if the orginial case got shifted to NY? Hopefully one of you can help my understanding of the 9/11 lawsuits. I read an article from a couple of years ago that a lawsuit was filed in the US District Court for the District of Colmubia by over 900 people against Saudi Arabia and others. However, the ruling issued this week that cleared the Saudi government and others was handed down by the New York District Court. Does anyone know if the orginial case got shifted to NY?

]]> By: Dean's World http://xrdarabia.org/2005/01/20/saudis-cleared-in-911-suits/comment-page-1/#comment-439 Dean's World Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:01:50 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=619#comment-439 <strong>Saudis cleared</strong> Crossroads Arabia notes that a number of important Saudies who were in legal trouble here in the U.S. recently had their charges thrown out of c... Saudis cleared
Crossroads Arabia notes that a number of important Saudies who were in legal trouble here in the U.S. recently had their charges thrown out of c…

]]> By: John http://xrdarabia.org/2005/01/20/saudis-cleared-in-911-suits/comment-page-1/#comment-437 John Fri, 21 Jan 2005 03:08:58 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=619#comment-437 I've got no problem whatsoever with defense attorneys on the whole. I do have problems with certain kinds of lawyering, but that's another story. But I have to say that if you're proposing that the Executive is corrupt, the Judiciary is corrupt, and the Legislature is corrupt, you're starting to make me look into tin foil futures. The cases were mostly dismissed for lack of jurisdiction, not a finding of innocence. I'm posting a link to the Court findings as an update to the original post. I’ve got no problem whatsoever with defense attorneys on the whole. I do have problems with certain kinds of lawyering, but that’s another story.

But I have to say that if you’re proposing that the Executive is corrupt, the Judiciary is corrupt, and the Legislature is corrupt, you’re starting to make me look into tin foil futures.

The cases were mostly dismissed for lack of jurisdiction, not a finding of innocence. I’m posting a link to the Court findings as an update to the original post.

]]> By: Osama_Been_Forgotten http://xrdarabia.org/2005/01/20/saudis-cleared-in-911-suits/comment-page-1/#comment-436 Osama_Been_Forgotten Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:14:11 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=619#comment-436 <i>Doug, defense attorneys certainly do do that. It becomes far more important, though, when a court does it.</i> Of course, it's their JOB to do it. That's what Defense Attorneys are for. (one of my pet peeves about the Right - their criticism of people who defend accused criminals). Whether or not the court is right? Who knows? I didn't see the evidence presented, etc. Of course, given their VERY strong political influence in this country, I doubt a truly fair trial was ever going to happen. And, actually, what the court concluded, was that there is no evidence. Of course. In today's opaque world of finance, it's almost impossible to prove a crime on this basis. They learned a lesson with the BCCI takedown over a decade ago. Keep a shredder on hand at all times. Doug, defense attorneys certainly do do that. It becomes far more important, though, when a court does it.

Of course, it’s their JOB to do it. That’s what Defense Attorneys are for. (one of my pet peeves about the Right – their criticism of people who defend accused criminals).

Whether or not the court is right? Who knows? I didn’t see the evidence presented, etc.
Of course, given their VERY strong political influence in this country, I doubt a truly fair trial was ever going to happen.

And, actually, what the court concluded, was that there is no evidence.
Of course. In today’s opaque world of finance, it’s almost impossible to prove a crime on this basis. They learned a lesson with the BCCI takedown over a decade ago. Keep a shredder on hand at all times.

]]> By: John http://xrdarabia.org/2005/01/20/saudis-cleared-in-911-suits/comment-page-1/#comment-435 John Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:58:14 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=619#comment-435 Doug, defense attorneys certainly do do that. It becomes far more important, though, when a court does it. Doug, defense attorneys certainly do do that. It becomes far more important, though, when a court does it.

]]> By: Doug http://xrdarabia.org/2005/01/20/saudis-cleared-in-911-suits/comment-page-1/#comment-434 Doug Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:50:16 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=619#comment-434 Defense attorneys maintain that their clients are as pure as the driven snow. Surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise. Defense attorneys maintain that their clients are as pure as the driven snow. Surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise.

]]> By: Outside The Beltway http://xrdarabia.org/2005/01/20/saudis-cleared-in-911-suits/comment-page-1/#comment-433 Outside The Beltway Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:17:41 +0000 http://xrdarabia.org/?p=619#comment-433 <strong>Saudis Cleared in 9/11 Cases</strong> Saudis Cleared in 9/11 Cases (Arab News) The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, three Saudi princes, several Saudi businessmen and Saudi financial institutions were dismissed as defendants on Tuesday in lawsuits accusing them of supporting Al-Qaeda before the S... Saudis Cleared in 9/11 Cases
Saudis Cleared in 9/11 Cases (Arab News)
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, three Saudi princes, several Saudi businessmen and Saudi financial institutions were dismissed as defendants on Tuesday in lawsuits accusing them of supporting Al-Qaeda before the S…

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